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Old 09-10-2017, 10:00 AM
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METO Guido
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Originally Posted by ptarmigan View Post
Several events where experienced crews did not recognize they had stalled.

Close to the same page here, I think? The crew in question more than proficient to standard, professionally expert even on approach to stall recovery, maneuver validation, textbook aerodynamic theory. They clearly knew enough about loss of lift due to relative wind/airfoil separation. What specific, panic classification blocked all three from working it out, given the time available, we can only guess at.

All I suggested was, a root cause of an accident may prove uncomplicated, examined in isolation. Drafting/approving a comprehensive fix that fits all sizes is, more often than not, complex as chit. Symposiums, sunshine meetings and white papers can serve a worthy function. As well a time and place for procedural revision based on clinical, human behavior discovery. Standardizing how we perceive, problem solve, advocate and correct for error, critical to all aspects of best practice operation. ASAP, SMS pillars, IOSA, all for it. But who better than you, line flight officers, to best determine if any of it really drives safety forward, out there day & night, slipping the surly bonds?
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