Originally Posted by
motorboatin
You’re correct in your statements about pay being only one component of the contract. What I don’t get is your slant that we’ll have to agree to what Spirit has in these other sections. Don’t you understand that the areas in which you are b!tching and griping have already been closed out. Reassignment is done, reserve is done, 117 is done, IROP is done, training is done, etc. And how the hell do even dream up something as ignorant as having to pay ALL your medical costs?? Do you really think that the negotiators are so fu#€’ing stupid to do something like that, moreover do think the MEC would then allow that to go to the pilots for a vote? The NC guys have said all along that the mediators would string the Co up by the short and curlys if they tried backing out of the already agreed upon sections- it’s not gonna happen so quit with the ridiculous theories and doom and gloom. And I don’t think anyone has forgotten the fact that negotiations only occur periodically. Why don’t you reach out to the reps and have an awakening experience. Please have a response that’s more original than calling me a troll. Thank you.
Do you really think for one minute that all that’s left to negotiate is pay rates and a few other small items and that NOTHING else can be re-looked into? Really. Vacation is done never to be discussed again regardless of how the pay rate discussion goes?
Honestly, even if you were right, that really doesn’t matter because there is ZERO guarantee that the first AIP that gets sent to a vote will become a TA. Your attitude, if you really are an F9 pilot, is the exact reason I continue to post what I do. Your behavior is defeatist. It’s hopeless. It’s acting scared - like you’d rather settle for some mediocre sh!t then really fight for what you deserve. Youve already decided what the vacation rules will be simply because that was told to you midway through a negotiation.
NCs do NOT make contracts. WE, the pilot FORCE, do. We vote contracts into place. We decide what is good for us. That’s you and I and the other pilots employed by F9. If the first attempt at a contract isn’t good enough, then WE send the NC back for another round.
So I have no idea if you’re a troll or not. But to accept something that you find substandard just because it’s a slight improvement . . . Another word comes to mind for that. Truthfully, I hope this IS a troll post and really not coming from one of my brethren...
BTW, ask some other airlines how much the pilot share is for medical insurance. I never said the company should pay 100% but it should never be this high (and that doesn’t even include the ridiculous family/spouse surcharges).