Originally Posted by
VamosALaPlaya
Well, considering the FQS ranks is down to the lowest number almost ever, around 120-130, from over 200+, it is definitely trending in the right direction. So “hundreds” is most definitely very innacurate and “replacement work force”???. They could maybe move a quarter of the fleet, and a big maybe. No one is denying what happened with the unnecessary furlough, but that is not the point I was trying to make. Pilot supply and demand market has changed the landscape.
I think we are going off on a tangent. People post misleading info such as relative seniority movement in fleets, half the pilot group being replaced in 7 years (not true), etc. Potential new hires see this and go in with false expectations. Simply pick the job you want for your own personal reasons and run with it. Fedex, UPS, a Legacy, SW, you can’t go wrong, all very good jobs.
Are you referring to the flying Western Global is doing for UPS that the IPA is grieving? Or is this something else on top of that?
I feel that you randomly bringing up UPS was the original tangent on a Fedex thread.
Originally Posted by
Noworkallplay
Also keep in mind that your actual bid percentage is much better because a substantial amount of pilots are in pay only status because of things such as medical, mil leave, instructors not bidding etc. In most WB fleets this betters your bidding percentage by about 10%.
How does this change your bidding percentage? If there is only 250 lines and you bid 200, it doesn’t change the math that there are pay only pilots ahead of you. They only build as many lines as there are available pilots to bid them.
Originally Posted by
Noworkallplay
The statement in regards to replacing half the list was stated in March. So lets take that as the starting point. If you look at data on early retirements (A lot go at 63ish union data), medical outs and the biggest factor growth this is definetely truthful. Look at the firm orders alone and assume all the MD-10-10 get parked and you come up with about half of the seniority list of the company in 7 years. The most recent fleet updates for the past 2 years have stated MD-11 and AB 300’s will be around for quit some time bc of the younger age of the airframes. Its not a smoke in mirrors number when looking at all those factors. Can this change if the economy tanks? Of course. I think the statment of recruitment is assuming the size of the seniority list in 7 years and all the factors above and then coming up with half the list.
The fleet plan, according to the company’s SEC filing, show the same number of aircraft retiring that we are receiving. I also thought it was showing a growing fleet until I looked at it more closely. The last earnings call they did say that they are flexible and increase the fleet by not parking some of the aircraft.