Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8

That's a strawman.

WO staffing doesn't need flow to be robust. What they need are better contracts with better pay and work rules. Flow is a fine insurance policy, but the WO have completely hitched their wagon to flow to the detriment of other things that directly benefit their pilot groups and those around the industry.

If the only thing you have to offer a prospective new hire is a 7-9 year "promise" of a job at AA, when every other regional will be able to get you to a major in less time than that, what value is flow to the average pilot? Of course it's a great option for those who don't have a college degree, or otherwise may have difficulty being marketable at a major, but that makes up a fairly small portion of the pilot group at Envoy, I'd be willing to bet.

I desperately wanted to want to go to Envoy. I live in Texas, and in a past life, was a frequent flyer on AA and have a lot of sentimental attachment to the airline. I'd love to wind up at AA. It should be a slam dunk for an airline like Envoy to get me in-house, and yet, even with all of that, they weren't close to competitive with their major competitors.

The pilot recruiting marketing at Envoy is completely tone deaf, but they also don't have much at this point to market. Envoy pilots deserve better than what they're getting, and I sincerely hope you get it.