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Industry Strnd
Must be willing to work on your days off for no extra pay if you're below gurantee. Must be willing to accept you're retirement and rates are less than everyone else in the industry flying the 767 and most of all you must accept ALPA has no balls!
Someone 4 years into ATI - likely now a captain with four year seniority.
ABX pilot hired 4 years ago - pay around $121/hr
ATI pilot hired 4 years ago - pay around $197/hr
So we're clear - that's about 63% over ABX - which also flies 767's. That's an insane difference - in the ATI pilots favor.
I'll skip the QOL / work environment items (I know ABX pilots hate the home basing stuff and consider that a waste etc etc).
I think some misinformation that open time flying is not paid.
ATI definitely more willing to deal with mgmt. I think ABX was approached over rates for 777 flying and turned that down, ATSG got OMNI in part for 777 rates and highlighted the possibilities that brings - longer flying / DHL stuff? ABX approached with basically ATI deal and turned it down. ATI said yes. I think initially management thought they'd be investing a lot more into ABX side, and so really always approached them first, but I think those days are long gone now.
Will be interesting to track career progression of folks joining ABX and ATI going forward. Might not be so bad ATI side - some are already earning 63% more than same DOH ABX pilots it looks flying the same equipment. Don't ATI folks get raises soon too?