Old 12-28-2018, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747 View Post
This is one route they will could take. I'm betting they will try to bypass the union leadership and present our pilot group with an increase in wages, a few minor changes to work rules and status quo on everything else. All while yelling "LET THEM VOTE!!!"


Same thing that was done at Omni and Kalitta.


Whatever the path, Atlas Air is not a employee friendly place to hang your hat.
Neither is Amazon/DHL and I'm willing to bet they want to keep wages down also and are willing to drag this on also or start moving planes to other carriers similar to what they did during the Atlas - Polar merger (whipsawing). I do agree they will try to go to the membership directly. That's in the old playbook and used often.

While our current leadership, which includes the guy your responding to, use the propaganda of "the company is suing the membership" for sympathy. They failed to mention we conducted an illegal work action in one case despite being warned by long term committee members (luckily we didn't get fined this time as other unions have - just told go back to work) and sued again due to never completing the company's grievance on arbitration. We just ignored it and of course lost that court case and ordered to complete the grievance process where we still wait for the arbiters decision. Just what did the EXCO expect the company to do to those actions, come crying to them? The EXCO new we would be headed to court by ignoring it and the court subsequently made us go thru the process later anyway. Wasting more time ( @1 year) thinking it was leverage somehow while the metal keeps moving anyway? I'm guessing arbitration and not Section 6 will be the award by arbiter reading our CBA section 1. I imagine Southerns is no better but can't say for certain at the moment. Although Sect. 6 would be the best leverage for us all. I just don't see it in the cards looking at language and history of past awards.

We need to stop repeating the failures of the past Atlas-Polar merger again. Similar failed tactics being used again. I believe only two on the ExCo were here to remember those days and only one of them was actually doing union work which was mostly lobbying ALPA and having parties for their favor which ultimately landed us at Teamsters for their actions when Atlas members retaliated against ALPA's spurning us for being ACMI. The remaining ExCo members, just being new guys so to speak, not having experienced the past merger relying on the Chairs side of the story which is as reliable as our POTUS statements.

While we all have a little bit of the below video, most of us realize our limitations and gravitate towards safety. It's in our training.

Then we have those that wind up in leadership from time to time and screw up decades of dedicated committee members work and say "Nailed it!" as everything burns down around them.

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