Originally Posted by
Riverside
Except if you trained at 141 in house program. Checkride failures won't be on your FAA report.
Originally Posted by
SteveBunch
Are you sure?
In the past "incomplete" (ie failed) 141 checkrides conducted under the examining authority of the school did not result in pink slips. However...
1. I believe recent legislation may have changed that, so that records of such 141 failures will be retained by the FAA. I know it was proposed, lost track of whether it was implemented.
2. An experienced interviewer (or anyone who was an examiner or CP in 141) can spot a 141 checkride failure in your logbook. Certain training must be done before a checkride, including retraining before a re-test. If you lie, it will probably get spotted.
3. Sometimes outside examiners will issue a pink slip for a 141 test. In that case, the examiner (perhaps unknown to you) effectively conducted the test under part 61. If you got an actual pink slip, so did the FAA.
4. PRIA requires the FAA to return certain records. Pink slips are NOT included. However... anyone can get additional records from the FAA via FOIA, and that DOES include pink slips.
Assume that all decent airlines do the FOIA, certainly all of the top tier. Some bottom-feeders/regionals might not do FOIA, on the principle of plausible deniability... they are not required to do FOIA, and can claim they did not not know what a screwup you actually were because PRIA doesn't provide that.
Bottom line:
- Don't lie about 141 busts, they will probably be noticed one way or another.
- Assume any airline will FOIA part 61 pink slips.