Originally Posted by DoubleA

I recently talked to a UPS Captain about the the horrible pay rate for new hires at UPS. He said that their pilot group negotiates only for second year pay and up because new hires are not represented by the union nor do they generate dues for the union.

He felt that first year pay was the responsibility of the company and it was up to management to either raise first year rates to attract quality pilots, or leave the rates low and take their chances.

An interesting perspective, but it seems to me that once these new hire pilots start paying dues their second year, they will have by then developed a poor view of their union and fellow pilots.

A weak start to the union's relationship with their new members.