Old 12-16-2007, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Toccata View Post
I think that statement says volumes, and other posts have addressed it. It's water under the bridge now, but a "root cause analysis" might point to the genesis of this as our country not choosing to enforce its own rules and regulations (CRAR for you LIDO fans). I honestly don't remember hearing any type of warning shot from ALPA when ICAO changed their age and the US choose not to enforce its own age regulation on other carriers operating in its sovereign airspace. Anyone recall anything from them?

From ICAO Document 7300, rev. 7, Article V:

"Such aircraft, if engaged in the carriage of passengers,
cargo, or mail for remuneration or hire on other than scheduled
international air services, shall also, subject to the provisions
of Article 7, have the privilege of taking on or discharging
passengers, cargo, or mail, subject to the right of any State
where such embarkation or discharge takes place to impose
such regulations, conditions or limitations as it may consider desirable."

I wonder - were open sky discussion/negotiations occurring at that time?

Oh well, as I said, water under the bridge now. Just sit back, pop another, and watch the ICAO ice flow (cabotage, foreign ownership, foreign-pilot manned domiciles, etc.) come down the river. Hmmm, think I'll move to the shore, not sure the bridge is going to survive what's coming.
(1) Yes, and

(2) I wonder if there are Chinese and French pilots complaining about us coming in and setting up domiciles on their turf, manned by us foreigners?
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