Old 05-14-2019, 12:02 AM
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JohnBurke
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Federal Acquisition Regs have nothing to do with individual income or taxes, that has to do with the government buying stuff.
You may have missed the point. If you look past those trees, you may see the forest.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
But the FAA does not allow "indefinite" dual instruction for no good reason other than to allow two people to log the same flight time.
The FAA has never placed a limitation on the amount of instruction one may give a particular person.

Now, if one is stupid enough to place in one's logbook "Gave instruction for no good reason other than to allow us both to log PIC time," then the FAA may take a dim view. One may actually need to find another purpose to cite when logging that time and endorsing the other pilot's logbook. It might be ground reference maneuvers or training on operating lean of peak, or scanning for traffic, systems training, or coordination exercises, but there's a good chance that one can come up with something that one has focused on for the duration of the flight, and log accordingly.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
But if you're logging dual (received or given) for the same commercial operation day in, day out, that would raise eyebrows. And it's not legal, once you've exhausted reasonable purpose of instruction.
Where is this "reasonable purpose of instruction" defined?

One may have an insurance requirement to have a certain amount of time in the aircraft, and until that benchmark is achieved, to fly with an instructor, or receive instruction in the aircraft from the instructor. An instructor might be giving operational training, company training, or any number of other kinds of training (operating in busy airspace, etc). I used to have an older gentleman who had a commercial pilot certificate, but who did not feel comfortable flying alone. He called me when he was in town, which was frequently, and paid me as an instructor to fly with him. A nice fellow, easy to get along with, no problems communicating or relating, I always found things we could work on, whether it was the landings, or flying from point to point, proximity to mountains, entering and exiting a traffic pattern, operating in reference to points on the ground (looking at autumn leaves), or whatever; we always found things to work on.

There are a lot of reasons an instructor might be on board; giving training toward a pilot certificate is only one possible reason. There is much else to teach, and there's a lot more to learn.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
More legal to do safety pilot, since nobody would claim there's such a thing as too much instrument time, but there are limitations to that as well, and you really can't do it on traffic watch.
More legal?

The requirement for a safety pilot is clearly spelled out. it's not ambiguous. One doesn't need to be an instructor to do that, though one can certainly be, and one can certainly give instruction.

If flying and watching the ground continuously, a second set of eyes to watch for traffic may be well advised: there's no reason that one can't provide instruction at the same time.
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