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Old 07-04-2019, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
We are confusing nautical and statute miles. It's just under 800nm, I thought that was the unit we were using. Anyways...

The plane had 2 crew. 2 kids, and pax were not 180lbs average.
They filed it at FL310, so yes, they were RVSM.

Really - W&B was not an issue. The plane was easily capable of completing the mission, something else happened here.
It wasn’t filed direct. It sure as hell wasnt going to be cleared direct. There’s a bit of airspace in the panhandle that everyone gets to go around. And a 350 pilot just laid out the numbers to show the plane was right up against MTOW, and could be aft loaded.

You realize that’s an issue with an engine failure right? Even is the plane is under MTOW and within the envelope? That an engine failure in that situation is now at best right up against the limits of the plane? No one said it’s the only issue. It is likely a contributing issue. And it doesn’t matter what the actual average weight is with two kids, because their only bringing two bags per person, particularly with kids, is being conservative in the planning. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility that they had more.

Do you have some information that shows their weight and that they only brought one backpack per person, or are you just staying out this position because the plane should normally do it?
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