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Old 01-04-2020, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
I agree, I know of no "requirements" to have a conversation after.

But it IS a requirement for passengers to comply with crewmember instructions regarding seatbelts. The requirement is referenced in 135.117(a)(2). If the crewmember instructs the passenger, this should be binding and if the crewmember wanted to bring action against the passenger, if there was ample evidence, it would be pursued. Most of the inspectors and offices take passengers interfering or not following instructions pretty seriously, if not always able to prosecute due to a lack of evidence (doesn't mean it didn't happen, just not enough exists to prove it in court).


There are a few other requirements for the passengers, like in regards to stowage of trays, cargo, for takeoff and landing, but yeah, not a lot in there. No other significant requirements I can think of.


Just because you may be "right" by the FARs may not absolve you in a civil suit if someone was a POS enough to do it. It could also be careless to knowingly operate into conditions that you know/expect to cause injury to the passengers, even reckless depending on the intent/premeditation. Does that "require" an announcement? That would probably have to go down in court, but there's no way that would look "good" IMO. It's careless in general to leave yourself this exposed/liable as a person, not even getting into an FAA definition or anything. Some people are ****bags and you aren't going to change that on a flight, so you are going to have to deal with it sometimes and you are't going to change the world. You don't "give up", but you stand up and protest/do the right thing when you know you are right. When you don't know if you are right, you make sure you are taking a safe course of action. It would also be a good idea if you encounter any of those "special" customers to take some very good notes in flight, including times and specific actions. If you already have a statement and account of what happened, the other party is going to look pretty poor, especially because they likely did not keep notes and are just trying to remember "their side". Don't let these people ruin your day, keep your distance and keep it professional.
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