Originally Posted by
kronan
PTB-it wasn't my takeaway that PM was creating an expectation of payrates lower than UPS, but rather expressing what a GOOD thing it is that UPS raised the bar. And saying one reason UPS Management did so is the desire to avoid dual negotiations. The simple fact that UPS Ground\Air are both Unionized is a big advantage for the IPA.
And the whole point of pattern bargaining is sometimes you've got the highest payrates and then someone else raises the bar.
NMG, would say that when you drop a year, it doesn't always tell the whole story.
UPS Signed their 5-year deal in the Summer of 2016 and the pay rates were effective September 1st.
Sept 1st UPS pay rate was $300 while our Nov 1st was $295.27
But that pay rate doesn't consider other factors where our CBA is better, and still others where our CBA is worse.
As one comparison, even our FO's have a superior Intl Override compared to UPS Captains,
we're at $10\8 UPS is $6.50\4.50
As for me, only semi-care what Pax carriers pay rates are. Do care what the Cargo pay is, and whether FedEx is profitable or not
Totally understand where you are coming from. I get the give and take of negotiations and I do believe we have some nice QOL advantages over UPS. I don’t think our WB rates were substantially lower than our peers during this last contract.
All that being said, I think the focus for C2021 is rates and retirement. Given that there aren’t many QOL items on the table, I would be disappointed if our rates did not advance the bar in a reasonable fashion.
As far as FedEx being profitable. UPS signed their deal in 02/2020. That was a very different economic climate for cargo carriers than present day. FedEx is light years ahead today when compared to the UPS TA date. If this continues, it bodes well for us.
Full disclosure: I did not see PM not read his statements. I was just going off the previous poster’s comments.