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Old 03-04-2022 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
So it's either "You're with us or you're against us". Just like if you don't support the PATRIOT Act and allowing the NSA/CIA to wipe their asses with the fourth amendment, you supported the terrorists. If you opposed the invasion of Iraq based on dubious proof that they were some sort of threat (it's now been proven it was all made up by the Bush cabal), you were anti-American. Remember "freedom fries" and how stupid that was? Same thing is going on here.

Also, re the part about the insurgency. Ukraine is already destroyed. A lot of Ukrainians will be given refugee status in the U.S. and other western countries, and they are certainly deserving. Their government's policy of not allowing males 14-60 is going to destroy families. A 14 year old is still a kid. A lot of those men are most likely fathers. The excuse you gave for forcing people to join a theoretical insurgency is pure non-sense. A free and democratic government wouldn't force anyone to stay in the country and a fight a war they may not want to participate in. This wasn't the doing of any Ukrainian or Russian citizens. It was the doing of corrupt governments and profiteers in the Russian, Ukrainian, and U.S. governments.
plenty of people were against invasion of Iraq including myself from day 1. Your use of false equivalencies and gross generalization is weak. Declaring Ukraine a lost cause after 7 days is asinine. You know what destroys families? Russian invasion and forced migration. This isn’t politics you clown, this the outright theft of an entire country and the continuation of the soviet attempt to wipe Ukrainian culture from existence.