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Old 07-08-2022, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot View Post
In the end, the military gets to dictate which vaccines are mandatory and which are not. They can and will kick you out for not taking a flu vaccine just like they will for not taking an anthrax vaccine or a Covid vaccine.
This whole argument smacks of entitlement and victimhood..
Oh, horse$hit. This isn’t an ARGUMENT at all. I stated up front that once the order was given, the military had no choice BUT to enforce it, because they now can’t afford the precedent if they don’t. But that doesn’t stop it from being a STUPID order. And EITHER losing 60,000 troops OR establishing a precedent that you can’t afford to establish is an unequivocally bad outcome. while YOU may not consider the loss of 60,000 troops to be any big deal, others do:

June 27, 2022, 1:30 AM PDT
By Courtney Kube and Molly BoigonEvery branch of the U.S. military is struggling to meet its fiscal year 2022 recruiting goals, say multiple U.S. military and defense officials, and numbers obtained by NBC News show both a record low percentage of young Americans eligible to serve and an even tinier fraction willing to consider it.

The officials said the Pentagon’s top leaders are now scrambling for ways to find new recruits to fill out the ranks of the all-volunteer force. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks consider the shortfall a serious issue, said the officials, and have been meeting on it frequently with other leaders.

“This is the start of a long drought for military recruiting,” said Ret. Lt. Gen. Thomas Spoehr of the Heritage Foundation, a think tank. He said the military has not had such a hard time signing recruits since 1973, the year the U.S. left Vietnam and the draft officially ended. Spoehr said he does not believe a revival of the draft is imminent, but “2022 is the year we question the sustainability of the all-volunteer force.”
And the poor bast@rds stuck in Army recruiting are going to be stuck there longer because with 9/12th of the FY gone, the Army has only recruited about 40% of those programmed:

10 Jun 2022
Military.com | By Steve BeynonArmy recruiters are having their assignments involuntarily extended for months amid a service-wide struggle to find new recruits to fill gaps in the ranks.

In an internal memo in early June to recruiters reviewed by Military.com, U.S. Army Recruiting Command says it cannot continue its mission to recruit 60,000 new active-duty soldiers by October, the end of the fiscal year, without involuntarily extending recruiters' assignments.

As of Tuesday, the service had selected 267 "high performing" recruiters to have their assignments involuntarily extended, according to Brian McGovern, a command spokesperson. Typically, a noncommissioned officer who elects to be a recruiter will have the assignment for roughly three years. In total, there are 5,319 active-duty Army recruiters
The issue isn’t one about entitlement, the issue is one about simple leadership competence. If you read the recent report on the fire onboard the Bonhomme Richard, you start to wonder what happened to it at the senior leadership level. These guys lost a $3 Billion warship IN THE SHIPYARD by failing at some pretty basic stuff.

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...of-three-star/

If those of us who have served can’t critique the military when they foul up without being shouted down for “entitlement and victimhood” who can?
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