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Old 04-17-2008, 07:05 AM
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TimSmith
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Originally Posted by kman View Post
You guys make me laugh, I truly see how much u vaule ur work, education, time and self. Why do u guys act like I insulted ur mother? Should I feel bad that I make a decent living? And maybe you should check ur numbers about the 1/15 of one percent.

Im in a very stable job, just finished paying off my almost all my loans, school,cc, and planning to pay my house off with in 5 yrs. And to top it off I have a great beautiful woman who loves and supports me. My life is great.

But I would still be in a huge whole if i just relied on my flying income. AGAIN, what is wrong with striving for more? Maybe your one of those guys that has the dont worry be happy attitudes, but i rather plan for my kids educations, be set for retirement, and be happy. And I tell u what 70k aint going to let that happen.

Im 28, and have set my sights high, I would like to be financially sound for when I start to have kids. My goal is to have my kids education paid for before they start college, so that they don't have to be burdened with 80k in student loans like i was. You guys make me sound like the devil, just because I think we deserve more.

Like a wise man once told me always plan for the worst and hope for the best. Im just hoping we can we all can raise the bar again so that we can make it a bit easier to plan for the worst and hope for the best.

oh yeah, WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

80K student loans and an attitude, hhmmmmm.....

Your accounting skills need work too. I have accomplished everything you have and have done it on 70K a year. Many years on less than that. What bothers me about your post is the entitlement attitude. You think you are worth 200K a year but the company does not agree. It is called a marketplace. Your compensation is the settled worth of your services negotiated by the union and the company. You don't like it? Go find someone who pays you what your worth. Otherwise increase the VALUE of YOUR service so YOUR union has hard numbers to negotiate BETTER compensation. It really is that easy. Work hard and give the company a reason behind your arguement.

Those that have good reasons behind their arguements:
UPS- makes $1 billion a QUARTER
FedEx- makes approx $1 billion a year
SWA- has not lost money in any quarter since 1991 while it's peers went bankrupt.

We have shown our services to be of greater value than the teamsters or the company thought. Both entities thought NJ would not make money at our 2005 rates. WE the pilots (including you, kman) have provided a product in demand and the company is profitable. Pay and work rules here have progressed extremely quickly if you look at where this pilot group was 5 years ago. It is not a "don't rock the boat and be grateful" attitude. It is a "know when to peck your fights" attitude. Right now it is in our interests to work with the company. Our current contract is negotiable in 2013. You need to switch from "fight the company for every last penny contract" mode to "professional" mode. At least in your previous posts you alluded to having the capability to express professionalism. Now is the time to show it.
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