Ranger and Dckozak,

Although I share your frustration, I believe you are wasting your time. The answers you seek are obvious to everyone, yet a small few still prefer to keep all the benefits the large majority secure for them, as well as keep their dues money. We have heard many excuses as to why from every one of them. In the end it's all about the money. Why even engage such independent agents and give them a platform? They choose to ostracize themselves so let them be ostracized. That's how I choose to do it anyway. If you want a say, then pay your way. Otherwise let them keep their opinions, just like they do their dues money, to themselves.