Originally Posted by
bluespoon
This is probably the worst time in recent history to be asking for Delta pay just because “it’s the cost of doing business”. And that is not exactly true, just like operating cost of fuel, they can still try to save money on it other ways. Not only are LCCs struggling to make money with rising labor costs and lower liquidity but there’s a giant elephant in the room with the status of Spirit. If they do file BK or worse… good luck negotiating. I would just lock something in now while you still can like the other guy said.
this guy gets it. Asking for legacy pay when our fellow ULCC is filling for BK and the other is on life support is crazy.
“Hey NMB will you release us? We are done negotiating because management won’t give us legacy pay, they are treating like us ULCC pilots.”
NMB: you are a ULCC
IBT: we are narrow body pilots all narrow pilots get paid legacy rates.
NMB: no they don’t.
IBT: yes they do its the cost of doing business. Just ignore that other ULCCs are failing and going out of business. Management is bargaining in bad faith by not paying us legacy rates.
NMB: hmmmm makes sense.
We got screwed by ibt and AR. Missed our window. Hiring environment has completely shifted. We need to lock in a deal even if it’s below legacy market rates. The rates and retirement that were passed two months, lock those in for two years instead of hoping the market makes another crazy turn and ULCCs start becoming crazy profitable again (very unlikely).
it sucks. But this is IBT’s fault. The buck stops with them and they let AR run wild and screw with our careers. It’s also our fault for “trusting” AR and “giving him the benefit of the doubt.” Im tired of giving IBT the benefit of the doubt when all we get are smoke screens like the latest trustee meeting. Not again. If it doesn’t make sense then I don’t believe a word they said. We are not atlas or NetJets.
IBT is playing right into management’s hands. They’ve got F&H attorneys running circles around our NC. The last thing management wants is a deal now and the IBT is going along with it and we are the losers once again.
But hey I’m glad the NC worked 10 hours the other day to try and get us a contract. I’m sure Jay and JR are exhausted after such a long day. Surprised the NC didn’t call out fatigue after all those negotiations.