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Old 09-05-2025 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
Hopefully this helps answer some of your questions.

In our first two contracts, it was stated that this provision was to prevent or delay a furlough. The mins were set to 48/60. That was it. No trigger, no exit parameters, no limits between the high and low lines.

The last time we entered 4a2b, we grieved it and the company got a partial win and so did we. The arbitrator ruled that the company was allowed to enter 4a2c, but they also ruled that there should be triggers and an exit parameter. They stated that if we couldn't come to an agreement with each other, then they would rule on those parameters. Hence, the SAM. We also added the line value differences fleet wide and a max pay provision because we had pilots that were MD FO's that were displaced to 72 SO now making 50 hours a month while 777 pilots and some MD pilots were making 70+ hours in a typical 4 week month. We codified the agreement in 2015. If the RLG hits certain parameters, they take 1 or 2 R days off your calendar. In 2020, pilots at other airlines were looking at something to reduce guarantees to avoid a furlough and were interested in our 4a2b/c. Then the government helped them out.

Yes, we either need to make it harder for the company to indiscriminately change flying, draft, and limits such as a mandatory buy up to average BLG in the highest paying bid pack if entering 4a2c and an easier exit such as 1 month above the trigger that caused the entry and a reset of at least 6 months before the trigger counter can start again. Otherwise, we should scrap the whole idea.

Another bid pack is out for another month of 4a2c. They’ve shuffled the hours around like a champ. What a shell game. It’s a 1980’s Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd movie except we’re stuck in it and it’s a forever loop.

Keep rowing! It will get worse. This company is facing hard times. Just like UPS and Atlas and oh wait they’re hiring. Hmmm. It’s just FedSux that SUX.

-Bubs
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