Thread: Roberts Award
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Xray678 View Post
Does this award overule or wipe out the Roberts award?

I ask because as I understand it, now that the fences are down a Republic pilot can bid an opening on the 74 or 330, but he/she cannot displace a pilot off those aircraft.

Is there the potential that a Republic pilot who gets displaced off his aircraft cannot bump a NWA pilot out of his 330 seat but can bump a Delta pilot out of his 764 seat?
Roberts award dropped dead 1/1/2006. Ratioing of positions stopped on that date. Never was a fence....there were simply allotments for redbook pilots on equipment. When those allotments were staffed additional positions went 1:1 green/red. There were some very senior greenbooks on NWA widebodies soon after the merger. They kept their Republic DOH but had redbooks junior to them fill allocations on aircraft.

You are correct that greenbooks cannot displace anyone off aircraft simply by virtue of the Roberts award ending. There was "no bump/flush" language. Now that Robert's award is over everyone simply bids for vacancies purely by seniority. So, to your question, if a greenbook pilot (or any NWA pilot) gets displaced they CAN bump into any position occupied by someone junior to them. On the APA (like DAL's AE) effective Jan 06, there was a somewhat junior greenbook 747FO who got displaced from his seat in ANC. He bumped into 747-400 Captain because there were NWA pilots (redbooks) junior to him in the position and as of 1/1/06 there were no longer any Roberts award restrictions.

So, for example, if a NW greenbook 757 CA gets displaced, he/she CAN bump a junior NW pilot out of the 330 seat and, if the DAL displacement language works the same way, could also choose to bump a DAL 764 CA out of the seat IF they are junior to him, since the 764 is not fenced. Only after SOC of course.

Any real "former" red/green guys please correct any of this if it's wrong.
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