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Old 06-28-2009, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh View Post
The position of FO is supposed to be as an apprentice. If they now are expected to have the skills and experience as a captain then they need captain wages.

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That is SOOO wrong.

Apprentice:
1. One bound by legal agreement to work for another for a specific amount of time in return for instruction in a trade, art, or business.
2. One who is learning a trade or occupation, especially as a member of a labor union.
3. A beginner; a learner.


Journeyman:
1. One who has fully served an apprenticeship in a trade or craft and is a qualified worker in another's employ.
2. An experienced and competent but undistinguished worker.


Master (used in reference to a trade):
A worker qualified to teach apprentices and carry on the craft independently.


In multi pilot crew flight, the terms roughly equate to:
Apprentice: any pilot who has not achieved the certificate or rating he/she is trying to get.
Journeyman: an FO through junior (or high-mins) CA
Master: Senior CA or Check airman

An FO is expected to be fully qualified to:
To work jointly with the CA in the operation of the aircraft during normal, abnormal, and emergency situations
To challenge the CA at anytime there is a question of safely or legality
To safely complete a flight should the CA become incapacitated.



An FO should NOT be LEARNING how to fly, learning company policy, nor the regs. He IS gaining experience.... as is the CA.... as should EVERYONE who continues to work.
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