Originally Posted by
Fritzthepilot
Socal,
We all need to keep in mind that when these lists are published, and they will, no one really expects a straight date of hire integration. On the other hand, I would be very surprised if there was a straight relative seniority integration as well. The final list when produced, I am quite confident, will surprise most.
There's a thread going on within the UAL forum talking about how we need to set a high standard and treat each group with respect and let our respective merger committees do the work. In the end we will be flying together and we have a large contract in front of us.
With that being said, publish the lists and break out the olives and martinis.
Fritz....
I hear what your saying & could not agree with you more. "Tongue and Cheek", I may have come across as "snide", not meant as such.
As you pointed out, DOH vs Straight Relative Seniority, both are at the far ends of each spectrum in this SLI.....Strictly one, or the other, would present a Windfall for one group in this integration. I think we (as MANY others) can agree, a one-sided Windfall would be unfair/unbalanced.....not something we want to embark on in a constructive integration.
The point I was trying to make (and be it valid), if someone (who is a CO-Founder and UAL Pilot) wants to present a DOH list (which if
solely used would be considered a Windfall as we mentioned above), what's wrong with someone else 'suggesting' that he
also offer the other side of the coin in weighing in on what a Relative Seniority List would look like as well?? IF there are options/ideas to put on the table to view it from all prospective's, why not welcome it?? Again, that's all I was pointing out. If that's perceived as being out of line, I would have to disagree.
I whole-heartedly agree with you on the what a great opportunity we have in coming to together and making the NEW UAL one of the worlds most formidable carrier's. In doing so, we
will have to rub elbows/constructively share ideas on how we can fairly integrate into ONE VOICE via an amicable SLI. This will be the ONLY way we can make a unified stance in 'negotiating' with mgt in obtaining the BEST CBA possible, not only UAL Pilots, but also holding the company's feet the fire on SCOPE & JV Flying as it pertains to industry wide.
In the end, I apologize for any 'wrong tone' that I may have presented to you, HSLD, or any other reader. Just a valid point/suggestion in my eyes, thus the post.