Old 10-04-2010, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver View Post
Anybody wanna take a SWAG on whether or not those stay, or get dropped when it's all said and done? UAL has NO such thing.



It's not just pilots, it's currently ALL ExpressJet employees as far as SA travel on CAL goes. This will probably go away when the dust settles, and it will be more along the line of the way just about every other legacy does it. It could be argued ALL day long as far as whether or not people agree with that, don't care. Just sayin'.

And if I remember correctly, don't the catering people get a higher SA travel ALL the time over even CAL employees?

Also, CAL just eliminated JS priority for COEX/Continental connection pilots over any OAL pilot. Now first come first served. This is contrary to the way just about every other airline does it.
I went back and edited my post. I didn't catch the "ExpressJet pilot" part when I was proof-reading my explanation. I meant ExpressJet employees but didn't say what I meant. (Guess that makes me one of those pilots who thinks the world and airline only revolves around us. Jab at myself.)

In regards to the catering thing, I know a flight attendant who came over from Chelsea. I asked this very fact because I had heard this as rumor. I was told very clearly that this IS NOT TRUE for the regular catering person. They board at the same SA3 level as CAL employees. Chelsea supervisors and managers get SA1 and SA2 travel like other management personnel at the company. Again, this was right from a relatively recent former Chelsea caterer (not supervisor).

The last will all need to be hammered out, but in the end I feel the company can do whatever it wants as long as it applies equally to all employee groups. As of right now, employee travel is not a contractual thing so the company controls the program as it sees fit and can change it anytime they wish.

I would still like to see vacation passes, perfect attendance passes, our EmployeeRes system, active airline employees first, dependents and retirees next, buddy pass travelers next, OAL employees/dependents last.

The whole jumpseat issue needs to be addressed with this combo. Own airline pilots first, Express/Connection carriers next, OAL pilots next and possibly then own airline FAs (could be an issue for many pilots... no offline FAs in the cockpit though). FA jumpseat: own airline FAs, Express/Connection FAs, own airline pilots, Express/Connection pilots, OAL FAs, OAL pilots.

Unlimited J/Sing for all eligible: we have seats we take bodies. None of this "well your carrier only takes one of us so only one of you gets to go" even though five guys might be waiting to jumpseat with open seats. I guess I am advocating for the JetBlue way of doing things. The company knows commuters exist. No one "likes" commuting. The company doesn't like it and we would prefer not to have to do it. But since it happens, a company that truly cares about its employees and about the operational excellence of the airline would do all it could to make getting to work easier.

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