Air Wisconsin Signs 5 Year CPA With United
02-28-2017, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Yes, but that's the only airline with that kind of ratio. Both Delta and United are largely off the street. I've talked to plenty of people at both airlines from a guaranteed flow AA program and from non-flow programs. Yes, getting hired at AA will be difficult for OTS. But I don't see the other two following in their footsteps. United's CPP has almost no teeth and Delta is trying to phase out a lot of regional flying.
02-28-2017, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Your argument states its better its better to not be wholly owned, not have
a flow or guaranteed interview and thus also lower paid. Let me guess who you work for a non
wholly owned. There may be some that it wont matter who they work for ie Military but for most there is no comparison. Your argument isn't based
on actual facts only speculation.
a flow or guaranteed interview and thus also lower paid. Let me guess who you work for a non
wholly owned. There may be some that it wont matter who they work for ie Military but for most there is no comparison. Your argument isn't based
on actual facts only speculation.
I love the way people argue now... I'm going to make a preconceived notion on the other guy so that I can hammer that made up ideal of my antagonist.
BTW, relax... this is not pointed at you specifically but more the general state of this board and our nation in general sadly.
02-28-2017, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying101
It's not the case at UA now but as UA brings more and more programs such as CPP it will lower the odds of a street-hire.
02-28-2017, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sflpilot
Yes street hire will likely continue to be increasingly less likely going forward. I know the flight schools are hyping the shortage like crazy, but for many reasons it won't happen at the legacies. They are getting apps from so many different facets of aviation not just regionals and LCC. The people at the non flow/cpp/dgi companies are telling themselves they all will easily walk in to mainline. Very small chance of that being the case.
02-28-2017, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying101
It's not the case at UA now but as UA brings more and more programs such as CPP it will lower the odds of a street-hire.
02-28-2017, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
That leaves plenty of seats at Delta and plenty of seats at United available to off the street hires. LIke I said, the CPP has almost no teeth.
Sorry, my knowledge is limited to XJT's CPP, but the thinking when it came out was that United's "hiring" of XJT pilots would simply shift where they came from seniority wise. As in, at one time, XJT pilots were the largest group hired of regional background, with SKW being second. UAL would still take XJT pilots at roughly the same historical percentage, just that most would interview via CPP ang go to class in seniority order. Although an OTS is still an option.
But that's not the way it's working out with the high shoot down rate. I've only heard of a few that interviewed via CPP that would have waited months, if not a year to go over on the CPP. Only to get an OTS HPI/interview and circumvent the CPP. And guess what? I've heard of 2 now that we're "accepted" into the CPP and waiting to go, THEN got an OTS intverview, and WERENT HIRED.
Point I'm getting at/short story long, the XJT CPP ISNT at all a hindrance/barrier/block to OTS hiring. Unlike AAG's WO who are contractual t make up a healthy amount of newhire slots.
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