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Old 02-27-2017, 09:20 PM
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Thank you. Obviously the big 3 will not have any problem filling classes, but how many spots will be reserved for pilots from Mesa and the like? At least at American somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-75% of new hire slots are already spoken for. The rest goes to military and a handful of lucky pilots from across the industry.
AA, UAL and DAL have people lined up for miles to fly for them, but the shortage at their regionals is already here, hence the bonuses and hiring agreements. It will get worse, and when it does it's a logical step to make service at a regional of their choosing mandatory prior to sitting in the right seat of the mainline. Will it be 100%? Probably not, but pretty close to it in the future is my guess.


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Old 02-28-2017, 03:33 AM
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And a car without an "engine" is just a bunch of parts.


Actually a car without an engine is a good restoration project for me


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you are wrong for saying I'm wrong when I tell someone else that they are wrong for something everyone doesn't get....

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Great news for AWAC. Glad to see this legacy regional pilot group with a new CPA.

The only thing in this news that raised my eyebrows was the continuation of operating the -200, an airframe that has been around since 1995. I was hoping to see the news mentioning a newer fleet of -700s or -900s, especially into 2023. Maybe that is in the fine print somewhere.

Again, nice to see this for the AWAC pilots and FAs.

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Originally Posted by LoitaHills View Post
Great news for AWAC. Glad to see this legacy regional pilot group with a new CPA.

The only thing in this news that raised my eyebrows was the continuation of operating the -200, an airframe that has been around since 1995. I was hoping to see the news mentioning a newer fleet of -700s or -900s, especially into 2023. Maybe that is in the fine print somewhere.

Again, nice to see this for the AWAC pilots and FAs.

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United is scoped out on 70/76 seaters. Someone would have to give lose planes for that to happen.
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I'm not going to state that the XJT ERJs aren't going away, but you have to remember that United can fly as many 50 seaters as they want. Right now they are scoped out on 70/76 seaters. The only way to increase regional feed is to add 50 seaters or increase the NB mainline fleet.
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Your argument states its better its better to not be wholly owned, not have
a flow or guaranteed interview and thus also lower paid. Let me guess who you work for a non
wholly owned. There may be some that it wont matter who they work for ie Military but for most there is no comparison. Your argument isn't based
on actual facts only speculation.
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Originally Posted by msprj2 View Post
Your argument states its better its better to not be wholly owned, not have
a flow or guaranteed interview and thus also lower paid. Let me guess who you work for a non
wholly owned. There may be some that it wont matter who they work for ie Military but for most there is no comparison. Your argument isn't based
on actual facts only speculation.
I'm not even sure what your argument is because your post is just rambling.

Going to a WO is a good idea for some people but it is surely not the only way to get to a major airline. There are plenty of people outside of flow or interview programs getting hired at major airlines, some with under 3 years and not military or special interest demographics. Yes, for some, going to a place like PDT that has a flow is a good deal. To say that all future hiring will be from a flow or CPP property is misleading and an outright falsehood.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
I'm not even sure what your argument is because your post is just rambling.

Going to a WO is a good idea for some people but it is surely not the only way to get to a major airline. There are plenty of people outside of flow or interview programs getting hired at major airlines, some with under 3 years and not military or special interest demographics. Yes, for some, going to a place like PDT that has a flow is a good deal. To say that all future hiring will be from a flow or CPP property is misleading and an outright falsehood.
I don't think flow or CPP or whatever will make it impossible to get the majors BUT it will definitely make it a lot more challenging. Look at AA new hire classes, less than 5% are street-hire civilians. Any program with any kind of preferential hiring or flow will have an impact on street hire. Flow is an excellent option for pilot without degrees and shady past (violations, traffic tickets, maybe an arrest).
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I don't think flow or CPP or whatever will make it impossible to get the majors BUT it will definitely make it a lot more challenging. Look at AA new hire classes, less than 5% are street-hire civilians. Any program with any kind of preferential hiring or flow will have an impact on street hire. Flow is an excellent option for pilot without degrees and shady past (violations, traffic tickets, maybe an arrest).
Yes, but that's the only airline with that kind of ratio. Both Delta and United are largely off the street. I've talked to plenty of people at both airlines from a guaranteed flow AA program and from non-flow programs. Yes, getting hired at AA will be difficult for OTS. But I don't see the other two following in their footsteps. United's CPP has almost no teeth and Delta is trying to phase out a lot of regional flying.
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