Grumbletrousers

Bull****

We need to negotiate for better duty rigs to get rid of these inefficient lines and 3 hour sits.

Half of my days this month are hitting duty rig.

As it stands, if you're hitting duty rig on your trips, you're working for half-pay.

This wouldn't be a problem if lines were efficient like they were a couple years ago, but now you can't go anywhere without long sits.

Pay raises would be great in the next TA, but if we got better rigs you could be at home more often thanks to more commutable lines, or you would be paid appropriately for the work you put in.

WhistlePig

This......

schmohawk

True those things are better , I should have said the sits are better getting paid than not; not optimal. The company is will build the lines they want. Better than not getting paid for your airport appreciation time ..... I guess the grass is always greener

lukeh99

That helps for sure!

Graybird

You can fly 121 as an FO with out a type rating domestically but not in international airspace i.e. iCAO regions.

The SIC type is a bull **** worthless use of ink on paper.
A SIC type came about as away for the FAA to satifisy ICAO Reg's several years ago 2005 to be exact. To prove that FO's where trained.
This was only nesscary on international flights where ICAO Reg's were in place.
Example a Falcon 2000 crew the Captain with a "real type rating" DA2000 and a First Officer with training only and no endorsement indicating type specific training on her/his pilot certificate could fly the DA2000 anywhere in the world with no issues. FO did not require a Type rating. Some time in 2004 ICAO said only crews with type specific training could operate in international airspace.
The FAA had no provisions for this so they created the Bull **** Type and called it the SIC type. It was a band aid to allow operators to continue to fly in International Air space. That is why the SIC type exist.
It has nothing to do with CFR 49. 121. Operations. A 121 air carrier operating domestically does not require the FO to be typed.
I know because I flew B727's,F27's,Convair 580's DC-9's as a FO with out a typerating.
I will say that the real leagacy air carriers for years have checked and issued type rating to FO's because the training and checking are the same. The Bull **** Scumbag regionals and commuter airlines would not issue a Type because they were afraid you would use it to go to another operator. The regionals now use the Full/ real type as a dangling carrot to lure you to come to them even if they operate domestically.
This is why Air Wis only pays 8k for a real Type on the sign on bonus.
And I back them up on this.
The SIC is worthless

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...ot-type-rating

CaptureThis

Yes I am aware of the SIC type for ICAO reasons under 135 I used to go international and was aware of the rule. It is a absolute BS rating however I do not think it makes you any less of a pilot compared to the PIC type rating in the same type aircraft. It may be a littler easier check ride, also a solid way for a company to save money on training and to see if your worth spending the money on a type rating. I just did not know the same rules applied in the 121 world. Everyday you learn something new.

Graybird

As a former Examiner for the ATP and the Type rating on Jets the check ride depending on the operators ops specs are pretty much the same.
I agree the company should type an FO as the cost are minimal.
The only reason they don't is to use the type check as a carrot to get the FO to stick around, if they did Type the FO the FO may leave the company for so called greener pastures.

newto121

I have an interview coming up with Air Wisconsin, I have a few questions for any AWAC pilots on property:

Is it possible to group blocks of days off longer than 3 days if I volunteer for reserve or junior manning during the rest of the month? I will be commuting from the Southwest for a while and longer stretches off preceded or followed by longer stretches working is more feasible for me. Any info on this is greatly appreciated.

pitchtrim

Big bag of nopes on that one. Once you get a line you "might" get lucky and get some swaps approved to get time off, but realistically you need some seniority to get long stretches of time off. Easiest way when you're semi junior is bidding integration days off (end of one month and beginning of next month). When I was a fairly junior fo line holder I'd get 4-5 off consistently that way. You'll get shafted with carry in days for awhile. Or do what most everyone else does when they get burned out with not enough time off and call out sick.