WesternSkies

Build up their WO? PSA might have doubled, but Envoy is a shell of what is was. I don't see shifting planes from one WO to another as building.
Sure ZW left AA flying but in the past few years nearly every regional out there has announced more American flying.

The WO narrative is one that AA tells their WO.

Grumbletrousers

Delta gave 9E the highest pay in the industry as a way to build their operations and rid the contract-carriers from their books. They can do this because they have the monetary backing from Delta. American will likely do the same.

Like it or not companies like Republic, Trans States and SkyWest won’t be able to compete if pilot pay keeps going up. Profit margins will shrink, and companies will either merge or fold.

I’m not saying it will happen overnight. But fee-for-departure airlines will be a thing of the past sooner rather than later.

chrisreedrules

More 175s will go to Envoy. I would expect to see the CPZ 175s head to Envoy in the next couple years. The 145s would have never gone to Piedmont except for the fact that the FAA scoffed when managment went to them with the plan to fly 175s coming from old dash-8’s. They wanted Piedmont to fly the 145 before they put anything else on their certificate. The CRJs that Envoy flew were/are transferring to PSA because it will save AAG millions by having each of their WO regional airlines fly primarily one single fleet type. PSA has been told that we are ultimately going to end up being around 150-165 airplanes and mostly CRJ900 fleet type. Piedmont is growing their 145 fleet until they can no longer grow. Envoy is transferring some aircraft, flowing a ton of pilots, and will refleet primarily with 175s as time goes on.

No one really knows exactly what will happen with the AAG WOs. The merger between USAir and America West was never truly finished when USAir merged with American Airlines. There are still a lot of things left to work out and a lot of changes coming at mainline as synergies are realized. Once they have taken care of things at mainline AAG will be looking to get its house in order and I may expect to see some structural changes at the WOs or perhaps a plan that may include some absorption of sorts. All I know is 3 separate regional management’s and all of the associated costs don’t make a lot of fiscal sense. I think ultimately we’ll see more AAG regional flying brought “in house” to the WOs and some big changes over the next few years. Time will tell.

Inop2

Could be ...but AA continues to hand out flying to other regionals frequently. AA just gave new routes to Mesa and Express Jet. I’m watching Delta for the future structure of regional flying. It’s my understanding they’re working towards a 80/20 rule on regional flying. 80% mainline and 20% Endeavor.

stroopwaffle

I am pretty happy not to be flying for AA anymore.

billyho

That's totally True. I know many contract carriers loved how US Airways treated them. Honestly flying for American I do miss our US Airways culture. Hopefully with the incredible movement at American it will change over the next 5 years.
Good Luck with United. I remember when AWAC folks were glad to be gone from them. Life is a big circle sometimes.

stroopwaffle

It's hard to admit and I threw up in my mouth a little, but I agree with Billyho. USAirways liked AWAC much better than (the new) AA does.

At least for the next 5-7 years, the contract with UA has an exclusivity clause. We wont be flying for anyone else.

andili61

I don't know if being exclusive with United is good or bad. United is extremely cheapie when it comes to its regionals. Sad but true

idlethrust

Personally i think they are setting AWAC up for a buyout in the near future. Before its all said and done United will acquire and operate awac, xjet and commutair as its wo's.They are realizing its the best way to fully protect and manage its feed into the hub cities.

prex8390

United will be the king of the old, tired 50 seaters at the end of that buyout. Just becuase AA has 3 WO doesn’t mean united will. Delta only has one and that seems to be the carrier everyone follows. When Delta doesn’t renew gojets contract this coming spring (which is being wildly rumored) there might be more incentive to have them as a WO with their scope claused 700s.