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Old 12-28-2017, 12:27 PM
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I am fully convinced, Air Whiskey, would be closing up shop next month had it not been for DUI Dougie’a, right hand man, Scott Kirby, becoming United’s President.

First off it is just astounding to me he would be able to even go from AAL to United, a major major competitor, within a month. Absolutely incredible to me. Wow.

I’m at an LLC now and even our top executives all have at least 1 year non compete clauses. Some very well could have even longer.

So Kirby heads to United, a complete RJ *****. He knows with 1000000% certainty Awac is completely done Feb 2018 with his old company. I don’t think it’s hard to figure out why we got a deal with United.

I’m glad they did! I wish we were flying for United back when I was there. No doubt.

As for the long term future? Even though he loves RJs, I think it’s going to be extremely difficult for Awac go get another contract without anything larger. I also agree with others that the few remaining regionals that will be left, will be WOs.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:06 PM
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Hopefully the senior cheeseheads fill up MKE with this new vacancy (59 CA, 58 FO), and none of the East Coasters have to commute to similar schedules that ORF had. Maybe all these new upgrades will take up the slack.

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Old 12-31-2017, 03:26 PM
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Hey guys, I'm currently a captain on an aircraft weighing more than 12,500 under part 135 looking at making the switch to 121. I like the bonus structure of Air Wis. Would you recommend coming here? I'm also looking at Envoy and Endeavor. I am Dallas based

Thanks for any information
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Old 12-31-2017, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sandwichman View Post
Hey guys, I'm currently a captain on an aircraft weighing more than 12,500 under part 135 looking at making the switch to 121. I like the bonus structure of Air Wis. Would you recommend coming here? I'm also looking at Envoy and Endeavor. I am Dallas based

Thanks for any information
Our bases right now are ORD, IAD, and MKE so if you decide to come over you'll have to commute. Our commuter clause requires two options to get to work. Your first option needs to get you to domicile two hours prior to check in while the second needs to get you there 30 minutes prior.

Commuting is not easy but if you can live with that AWA is a good place to work. So are Envoy and Endeavor though. As much as Id like people to come to Air Wisconsin, I think Envoy would be a good fit. Being home based is huge and a flow to American in your back pocket is a nice thing to have as well.
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Old 12-31-2017, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21 View Post
Our bases right now are ORD, IAD, and MKE so if you decide to come over you'll have to commute. Our commuter clause requires two options to get to work. Your first option needs to get you to domicile two hours prior to check in while the second needs to get you there 30 minutes prior.

Commuting is not easy but if you can live with that AWA is a good place to work. So are Envoy and Endeavor though. As much as Id like people to come to Air Wisconsin, I think Envoy would be a good fit. Being home based is huge and a flow to American in your back pocket is a nice thing to have as well.
DFW is a senior base with Envoy and hasn't been available out of the schoolhouse for a few months. Prior to that could only get it on 175, which went very senior - you'd have to be in the 40s prior to the new 3 tier seniority system (pipeline did then prior 121 then age for the rest).
Moreover, depending on what a/c he flies for the 135, the time might count towards 1000 121 hrs (jet PIC, or over 10 pax seats PIC, or commuter PIC), in which case he'll get force upgraded into LGA 145 CA and sit reserve there for the next 1.5 yrs.
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sandwichman View Post
Hey guys, I'm currently a captain on an aircraft weighing more than 12,500 under part 135 looking at making the switch to 121. I like the bonus structure of Air Wis. Would you recommend coming here? I'm also looking at Envoy and Endeavor. I am Dallas based

Thanks for any information
I like the company a lot. But you will have to commute. Honestly go to the place that feels like the best fit for you. There are several people in my class who previously applied to Envoy and were turned away by their company culture.
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BigZ View Post
DFW is a senior base with Envoy and hasn't been available out of the schoolhouse for a few months. Prior to that could only get it on 175, which went very senior - you'd have to be in the 40s prior to the new 3 tier seniority system (pipeline did then prior 121 then age for the rest).
Moreover, depending on what a/c he flies for the 135, the time might count towards 1000 121 hrs (jet PIC, or over 10 pax seats PIC, or commuter PIC), in which case he'll get force upgraded into LGA 145 CA and sit reserve there for the next 1.5 yrs.
Thanks for the response guys. I realize that I will spend a lot of my time commuting. ORD is probably what I would get out of training at Envoy, then after upgrade, getting Dallas would be very difficult. That is why I'm looking elsewhere. I figure if I have to commute, I might as well make it to a good company with better pay and then figure out the details later.
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Old 01-08-2018, 01:12 PM
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Have any of the pilots here for Wisconsin scene an improvement or change in schedules, or to early into the UA flying?

I've heard nothing but bad stories regarding lines that are commutable and getting time off, which honestly has swayed me away from applying.
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Old 01-08-2018, 02:50 PM
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Still too early to tell. Feb Captain bids just came out and that will be the last month of split flying. While schedules are something to consider, don't overlook the company and contract as a whole. Schedules can and will change over time. I don't think ours are that much different than other regionals. We generally have 4 day trips with 3 days off subject to crew and aircraft utilization and domocile. You might see a big base like ORD have some more variation like stand-up lines and day trips. Commutability will vary with each pilot and domocile to some extent. My trips out of IAD for Feb start at 1210 end at 1130/ 1705 end 1600/ and 1640 end 2100. Pretty commutable except for the last one on the back end.
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Old 01-08-2018, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by flyjustinfly View Post
Have any of the pilots here for Wisconsin scene an improvement or change in schedules, or to early into the UA flying?

I've heard nothing but bad stories regarding lines that are commutable and getting time off, which honestly has swayed me away from applying.
I'm only a sample size of one, but I have a commutable line in Chicago this January. Started training last summer and spent the last three months of 2017 on reserve.

That said, it's probably too soon to tell with any certainty. With American flying winding down, ORF closing and MKE base opening there is lots of change the next couple months.
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