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Old 12-22-2017, 04:01 AM
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Whether fact or speculation, what does the future of AWAC hold?

The 5-year CPA with UAL breathed new life into the company, but with talks of UAL acquiring ExpressJet, one has to question what AWAC's next move is going to be at the end of their stint. They own 65 aging CRJ-200s which also begs the question of what they can do to remain competitive as their fleet is on its way out. Throw in the fact that the major airlines are starting to hire en masse huge numbers of pilots and therefore staffing at regional airlines abroad is going to be very competitive and interesting for the airline industry as a whole in the years ahead.
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You could say the same thing about any of the non wholly-owneds. Sure, the -200 is not long for this world, but the company has successfully navigated massive fleet changes before. Airframes are not hard to come by. A trained, professional, and most importantly, fully staffed pilot group is far more valuable in this market.

There's no crystal ball. This place could sell to united, go belly up, continue on with the status quo indefinitely, or a million other things. The company was "dead" in the eyes of the forum experts before the united deal was announced.

If it makes sense to come here for pay/base/QOL that fits your needs I don't see anything concerning enough to stay away over.
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:21 AM
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My opinion is United does the same thing Delta and American are doing. They’re going to purchase several companies and create wholly-owns which cater to their flying only. Come February, Air Wisconsin and CommutAir will be operating solely as United Express. Down the road, I can see United purchasing C5, ZW, and EV and running them the same way American runs MQ, EN, and OH. Which enables their entire operation to be in-house and not have to depend on companies who “dba” multiple airlines to effect their operations and most importantly their bottom line.
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My opinion is United does the same thing Delta and American are doing. They’re going to purchase several companies and create wholly-owns which cater to their flying only. Come February, Air Wisconsin and CommutAir will be operating solely as United Express. Down the road, I can see United purchasing C5, ZW, and EV and running them the same way American runs MQ, EN, and OH. Which enables their entire operation to be in-house and not have to depend on companies who “dba” multiple airlines to effect their operations and most importantly their bottom line.
I have been wondering if this is Scott Kirby's ultimate goal. It worked during his time at AA.
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Which enables their entire operation to be in-house and not have to depend on companies who “dba” multiple airlines to effect their operations and most importantly their bottom line.
Entire?
42 percent of Eagle stuff is dba.
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Guessing what the future is of awa after our 5+2+2 year contract is up with ual is like trying to guess the high temperature is in bakersfield, ca on april 7, 2026.
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Guessing what the future is of awa after our 5+2+2 year contract is up with ual is like trying to guess the high temperature is in bakersfield, ca on april 7, 2026.
It's going to be 83 degrees Fahrenheit
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My opinion is United does the same thing Delta and American are doing. They’re going to purchase several companies and create wholly-owns which cater to their flying only. Come February, Air Wisconsin and CommutAir will be operating solely as United Express. Down the road, I can see United purchasing C5, ZW, and EV and running them the same way American runs MQ, EN, and OH. Which enables their entire operation to be in-house and not have to depend on companies who “dba” multiple airlines to effect their operations and most importantly their bottom line.
I could see that happening, too. At the end of the day, it gives them more control of their feed and fattens their bottom line. Certainly "dba" fee-for-departure airlines will be around for years to come, but that's the way the market is heading. Look at how profitable SkyWest has been: there's no reason UAL cannot be turning more profits by going the wholly-owned route.
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Well if you live in the MKE area, it will become a base March 1st.
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Entire?
42 percent of Eagle stuff is dba.
For now. Once they build up their WO they’ll throw the contact carries away.
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