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Old 02-05-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers View Post
I’ve heard ~40 this year to United. Not sure if that’s accurate though because the last couple months have only been 2 a month. Unless we do 3 a month that number is likely to fall short. The good news is, United is looking to hire 600-800 pilots this year. Though there was recently an ALPA merger meeting between UAL and B6. Not saying there will be a merger, but if there is, it may temporarily stop hiring.
I think I read in ALPA magazine that XJT has a 25% United new hire class CPP guarantee. There was another UAX carrier (I forgot which, maybe Republic) advertising a 10% class guarantee. I haven't heard a hard number from Skywest, but I'll bet it's substantial. That leaves AW, Commutair, GoJet, Mesa, and TransStates to fight over MAYBE 300 slots??? Not counting what United does in direct street hires ... 40 is already less than 5% of expected hiring and they don't look on track for that at the moment. Yes, a few AW folks will get picked to make good on the promise but I doubt it will be over 20 in 2019.
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Old 02-05-2019, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer1213 View Post
I think I read in ALPA magazine that XJT has a 25% United new hire class CPP guarantee. There was another UAX carrier (I forgot which, maybe Republic) advertising a 10% class guarantee. I haven't heard a hard number from Skywest, but I'll bet it's substantial. That leaves AW, Commutair, GoJet, Mesa, and TransStates to fight over MAYBE 300 slots??? Not counting what United does in direct street hires ... 40 is already less than 5% of expected hiring and they don't look on track for that at the moment. Yes, a few AW folks will get picked to make good on the promise but I doubt it will be over 20 in 2019.
This is wrong on so many levels. It actually hurts to read it.

The only regional airlines that UAL has CPP agreements with at this time are Expressjet, Air Wisconsin, Commutair, and Mesa.

Skywest has no agreement, and no CPP slots. Same for Republic. Same for Trans States and GoJet.

We are sending people to UAL via the CPP. I personally know 3 that left in January...and I’d be willing to bet there was a 4th.

It’s not a huge number, it’s not a true flow, but it is a way for many of our pilots that deserve to move on to do so.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cessnaflyer1213 View Post
I think I read in ALPA magazine that XJT has a 25% United new hire class CPP guarantee. There was another UAX carrier (I forgot which, maybe Republic) advertising a 10% class guarantee. I haven't heard a hard number from Skywest, but I'll bet it's substantial. That leaves AW, Commutair, GoJet, Mesa, and TransStates to fight over MAYBE 300 slots??? Not counting what United does in direct street hires ... 40 is already less than 5% of expected hiring and they don't look on track for that at the moment. Yes, a few AW folks will get picked to make good on the promise but I doubt it will be over 20 in 2019.
Respectfully, you really need to get your facts straight before you post. As mentioned, your CPP airlines are all wrong. This is exactly how bad rumors start and a great lesson in not believing everything you read on Internet forums.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:47 AM
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You know, if we were having this conversation in the crew room and you said, "Wait, not all carriers are part of the CPP. Only a few." I would have said, "Oh, sorry. I assumed all UAX partners were invited to participate in CPP. My mistake." We would have moved on in the conversation. Instead, on the internet, we hide behind the anonymity of our keyboards and bash people. This tends to be why I don't participate in many online discussions. Thanks for reinforcing it....

Now that I know "the facts" it makes the CPP program for ZW even more frustrating. Of the few players in the game, a couple have been given class size percentage guarantees. Not ZW. It is my opinion, only supported by my observations, that a 10% guarantee to ZW would be fair. If that were the case, we would be talking about 60-80 going to UA this year not 40 or less.

I was also acquainted with a couple of the people who have had a chance to move up to UA and was happy for them. I saw a new article yesterday that said the CPP MEC members met to discuss the program and early poll results. I did fill out the poll. I hope their discussions were fruitful and will result in a better program.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:35 AM
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Looks like the CP is planning on leaving for the CPP.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stroopwaffle View Post
Looks like the CP is planning on leaving for the CPP.
Good for him, onward and upward right?
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