Air Wisconsin: Not for Newbies
#91
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
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They have loosened the reins quite a bit on all the “Gee-whiz” stuff. It’s not AQP easy but it’s toned down quite a bit from before.
#92
Remember all the BS that happened in the training department? It all worked for him. He might have been the best instructor on the planet, but he sucked at raining in his people and creating a good environment to be successful.
#93
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: RJ CA (does it really matter)
Posts: 198
Never had an issue with the training department. They always bent over backwards for anyone who was willing to put in the effort and show a great attitude. Like I said in a previous post, you’re being paid to do a job. And when you’re a new hire, you’re being paid to get trained in a new airplane. As an adult, nobody should have to spoon feed a pilot or coddle them. One should always come in well prepared and have their instrument flying skills up to par.
#94
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Position: Crew room attendant
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…The failure rate also very slightly depends on how many the company can afford to let fail. Full new hire classes and low attrition means more are allowed to fail. Short staffed with small classes and high attrition means they try hard to give folks the extra time and attention needed for them to pass or a “borderline” check ride gets a pass instead of a fail. Supply and demand.
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#95
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 963
I’d say that’s the case at most regionals. Full pipeline, up or out. Desperate for pilots, a bit more leniency is granted.
#98
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2019
Posts: 3
Hey guys looking to jump into the Part 121 world with AW and I have a few questions if a current FO/CA wouldn’t mind answering them:
1) Which base can a new hire expect out of training and how long can I expect to be on reserve for? (going to commute from PHX for the time being)
2) How many hours are FOs on reserve flying lately?
3) Lots of open time or little open time?
4) How long to upgrade?
5) Any talk of a new contract? More pay? Retention bonus?
6) Are some of the crew bases going to close with the change to American? For example IAD? Any rumors on any new ones?
7) Does AW junior man?
8) Is there an airport ready reserve? Or is it all short call and long call?
9) Are all 40 of the 200s going to be operated for American or is it another number?
10) Any talk of adding 700s or 900s? Or the 175?
Thank you in advance!
1) Which base can a new hire expect out of training and how long can I expect to be on reserve for? (going to commute from PHX for the time being)
2) How many hours are FOs on reserve flying lately?
3) Lots of open time or little open time?
4) How long to upgrade?
5) Any talk of a new contract? More pay? Retention bonus?
6) Are some of the crew bases going to close with the change to American? For example IAD? Any rumors on any new ones?
7) Does AW junior man?
8) Is there an airport ready reserve? Or is it all short call and long call?
9) Are all 40 of the 200s going to be operated for American or is it another number?
10) Any talk of adding 700s or 900s? Or the 175?
Thank you in advance!
#99
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: RJ CA (does it really matter)
Posts: 198
you their cellphone numbers and say if you have any questions, call or text them. They’re there to help you and teach you. None of them want to see anyone fail. They don’t like to see anyone struggle, but it happens. A good instructor will show a pilot what they’re doing wrong and show how to fix it. I know one AW instructor who will not hesitate to jump into the seat next to you and show you and work with you. If they tell you to try this and not do this, you have to listen to them as many of them are senior pilots with years and hours of experience. Many have very different methods and techniques on how to teach.
The training department has drastically changed since a few who were running it are now gone. It’s now much more user friendly and those who become instructors and LCAs are very carefully screened and monitored.
Unfortunately one only gets two hours a day in the sim flying it and that time runs by quickly.
Instructors don’t have time to take you by your hand and coddle you. You have to come prepared. Be proficient in instrument flying and procedures. Listen and listen closely to their instructions. But most of all, know your flows, callouts, profiles and procedures and the aircraft limitations and you have 90% of it licked. If you do that, the instructor can easily teach you how to handle the plane.
When you go for your type ride, if you don’t have strong system’s knowledge of how things work, you won’t pass your oral. And the examiner can’t pass you out of the goodness of their dear heart. They have standards to maintain just like examiners do in Part 61 and Part 141 flight schools. And if you mess up on your type ride, just like in GA and Flight School, they won’t pass you. Don’t expect to pass if you become unstable on approach and try to salvage the landing or even crash. It won’t happen in Part 61 or Part 141, don’t expect it in Part 121 either.
This is just my opinion.
#100
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 12
AW New Hire
I know this response is off topic for the thread, but does anybody working for AW have an idea how far out new FO class dates are? Im interviewing late next month and am curious... They advertise training can be completed in as little as 55 days, any truth to that?
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