Managing Training Risk/Thriving in ZW NH trng
01-30-2019, 04:10 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by TT15
^ This is absolute nonsense! If you have a good attitude, strong work ethic, integrity, study with others, and are trainable, you will do well in the program. If you display these traits and still struggle, the company will work with you if you show progress.
On the other hand, if you have a bad attitude, lack integrity, believe that you know better than the instructors, do not work hard nor study, and then blame all of your shortcomings on everyone else but yourself, then yes, you will not make it.
My class had four drop out for one reason or another...they all had one or more of the negative traits I described above...the other 14 in my class made it through; most had zero jet experience!
On the other hand, if you have a bad attitude, lack integrity, believe that you know better than the instructors, do not work hard nor study, and then blame all of your shortcomings on everyone else but yourself, then yes, you will not make it.
My class had four drop out for one reason or another...they all had one or more of the negative traits I described above...the other 14 in my class made it through; most had zero jet experience!
I don’t blame the individual instructors, the whole program needs re-tooled and everyone needs to get on the same page. What “the FAA is mad about” shouldn’t be surprise slaps on the wrists during line checks but sent to the pilot group as an announcement or in a newsletter.
01-30-2019, 04:18 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94
I don’t blame the individual instructors, the whole program needs re-tooled and everyone needs to get on the same page. What “the FAA is mad about” shouldn’t be surprise slaps on the wrists during line checks but sent to the pilot group as an announcement or in a newsletter.
They claim they got everyone on the same page when the 1-5 grading system was introduced and the training department was "standardized."
Agreed with line checks. If you are seeing an increase in an issue present it to everyone. Not just a few at random.
01-31-2019, 06:15 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 147
Originally Posted by RAHkid94
I’ve made it through all my training events here with no failures, but I still think our training department is terrible. There’s 0 standardization. Some LCA’s make up bizarre pet peeves that are often not in line with what the FCM says. Sim instructors all teach maneuvers differently. Ground school instructors are telling students that they don’t need to learn certain things and then APD’s are getting ****ed when students don’t know those same things.
I don’t blame the individual instructors, the whole program needs re-tooled and everyone needs to get on the same page. What “the FAA is mad about” shouldn’t be surprise slaps on the wrists during line checks but sent to the pilot group as an announcement or in a newsletter.
I don’t blame the individual instructors, the whole program needs re-tooled and everyone needs to get on the same page. What “the FAA is mad about” shouldn’t be surprise slaps on the wrists during line checks but sent to the pilot group as an announcement or in a newsletter.
I don't disagree with you and I would have liked to have seen more of that when I was there. However, they do try, or did. But I will say that's not uncommon in training departments industry wide as long as there is a human element and $$ involved. When I moved on to a "bigger, better" job, we saw the same thing in our newhire training. Our sim instructors were vastly different from our classmates. Some CPT groups got out of class in 2 hours, some were there for 4.
The bottom line is, did you pass? Did the APD fail you for any of those pet peeves? As long as there are human instructors, there will be different interpretations and stuff they like to focus on.
anecdote, I had one PC where the APD said I rotated too fast on the V1 cut. "Do it slower he says." So the next time I rotated slower and the examiner got on me for rotating too slow.
Cooperate and graduate!!
Also, If the LCA/APD is not in line with the FCM/FOM, send in a note to PP or JO and let them know. If it doesn't get reported they can't fix it.
11-03-2021, 08:12 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by WFGDMWM
reading this thread really sets the tone of the training at AW. yikes
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