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Jetmcquack1985 05-21-2018 11:15 AM

Commuting DCA MKE?
 
Hello, I am about to start class on the end of June, I am moving from San Juan, pr to Washington area. Anyone know how hard is the commuting to MKE in case I wont get Chiago ? Since Dulles is not an option?

Inside DEENA 05-21-2018 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Jetmcquack1985 (Post 2598977)
Hello, I am about to start class on the end of June, I am moving from San Juan, pr to Washington area. Anyone know how hard is the commuting to MKE in case I wont get Chiago ? Since Dulles is not an option?

Unless you HAVE to move to DC, I'd suggest moving to at least the Chicagoland area, as it'll be most likely a 2 leg commute to MKE, through ORD, PHL, CLT, ALT, MSP, etc. Will make it easier when/if you want/get based at ORD.

Both are also considerably cheaper places to lie in than DC.

ID

eac3112 05-21-2018 11:49 AM

WN has direct flights from BWI to MKE & back

Jetmcquack1985 05-21-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Inside DEENA (Post 2599000)
Unless you HAVE to move to DC, I'd suggest moving to at least the Chicagoland area, as it'll be most likely a 2 leg commute to MKE, through ORD, PHL, CLT, ALT, MSP, etc. Will make it easier when/if you want/get based at ORD.

Both are also considerably cheaper places to lie in than DC.

ID

I have to move to DC, my girlfriend just landed a job up there, and talking with a captain in AW I was pretty positive to get DC as base, but not anymore after I went through some of these Thread.
I was reading last night bout the typical 4 days round and it's pretty intense, because commuting you lose 6 days basically, one to get there the night before and one to get back the day after you finish your sequence, which is not ideal and most importantly is that the company doesn't offer you the hotel if you commute.

Jetmcquack1985 05-21-2018 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by eac3112 (Post 2599005)
WN has direct flights from BWI to MKE & back

Really? I didn't know that and the good thing is that I'll be living 40 minutes from BWI, and the 2 Washington airports, so basically you saved my day! lol

Inside DEENA 05-21-2018 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Jetmcquack1985 (Post 2599007)
I have to move to DC, my girlfriend just landed a job up there, and talking with a captain in AW I was pretty positive to get DC as base, but not anymore after I went through some of these Thread.
I was reading last night bout the typical 4 days round and it's pretty intense, because commuting you lose 6 days basically, one to get there the night before and one to get back the day after you finish your sequence, which is not ideal and most importantly is that the company doesn't offer you the hotel if you commute.

It's good that Southwest has some BWI-MKE flights, that'll make it easier for sure.

While you are on reserve, you'll be lucky to make it home for 1 full day/wk. Unless you do a crashpad, you are looking at 2 hotels/wk, which realistically will be $150/wk +. It's going to be the same for quite awhile, even once you have line-holding status. Until staffing improves (which is doubtful for a long time, if ever), just be ready for it.

ID

Jetmcquack1985 05-21-2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Inside DEENA (Post 2599040)
It's good that Southwest has some BWI-MKE flights, that'll make it easier for sure.

While you are on reserve, you'll be lucky to make it home for 1 full day/wk. Unless you do a crashpad, you are looking at 2 hotels/wk, which realistically will be $150/wk +. It's going to be the same for quite awhile, even once you have line-holding status. Until staffing improves (which is doubtful for a long time, if ever), just be ready for it.

ID

Yeah I checked the flights and southwest is the only one doing it. I was reviewing what AW has on the website about the commuting part and apparently they don't reimburse anything. I was looking for a crash pad too, just in case.. that's a bit of a urn down but you can't have everything I guess and I'm just preparing myself for the worse that can happen, just in case.

ZenoAir 05-21-2018 01:53 PM

Did anyone tell you PSA has a DCA base?
Great Airline also...means you will have a life on your days off.

Jetmcquack1985 05-21-2018 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by ZenoAir (Post 2599093)
Did anyone tell you PSA has a DCA base?
Great Airline also...means you will have a life on your days off.

I found it out recently but at the beginning I didn't look for PSA since Air Wisconsin, Gojet and Transtate came to PR and they gave me a CJO on the spot taking finger prints and so on. I just decided to continue with AW because of the benefits and the bonuses. Transtate is closing DC anyways.

IFLYACRJ 05-21-2018 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jetmcquack1985 (Post 2599118)
I found it out recently but at the beginning I didn't look for PSA since Air Wisconsin, Gojet and Transtate came to PR and they gave me a CJO on the spot taking finger prints and so on. I just decided to continue with AW because of the benefits and the bonuses. Transtate is closing DC anyways.



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ZenoAir 05-21-2018 04:45 PM

You could still apply to PSA and maybe Republic...both great airlines with a great future, if that is important to you? I would even recommend commutair right there at IAD in your backyard! There will be growth at IAD, and it will be given to a airline that can staff. For sure reread these boards and don't feel rushed due to 57,000

BFMthisA10 05-22-2018 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jetmcquack1985 (Post 2599118)
I found it out recently but at the beginning I didn't look for PSA since Air Wisconsin, Gojet and Transtate came to PR and they gave me a CJO on the spot taking finger prints and so on. I just decided to continue with AW because of the benefits and the bonuses. Transtate is closing DC anyways.

On the one hand...
I would still recommend Air Wisconsin to certain demographic candidates. Current, proficient, single, lives near ORD/MKE. It's still a fantastic group of people working there, and the company is sitting on a lot of opportunity for long term growth and sustainment, if it were to choose, among other things, to eschew certain counterproductive practices and policies.

On the other hand...
I categorically do not recommend ZW to certain demographic candidates. Commuters is at the top of that list. It looks simple enough: you plan out a few easy commuting options, plan on picking up some extra time here and there on the front or back side of your sequence to soften the commute. Man, I'm here to tell you, the best laid plan is just not meeting the reality of the situation intact. And the company is just not inclined to recognize certain empirical realities of it's own at the moment.

Based on the limited information you've posted, I'd suggest giving a long hard look at some of the other options closer to you, even if that means a class date a month or 6 weeks later. If noone else calls, well then I guess Wiskey is the prettiest girl at the dance after all.

ZenoAir 05-22-2018 06:35 AM

I currently don't commute and still would not recommend this place to anyone. The current management for the past 10 years has shown no good will at all, its a very toxic environment right now! I know...should have left years ago, but am leaving very soon. For years under the AA agreement this airline printed $$. Never once tried to give back to the employee group! Other express carriers could share the wealth and show appreciation. All we heard was how expensive we are and need to compete to win! This place was making 50-70 million per year. They believed the good times would continue and we kept hearing in ground school we have no problems attracting pilots. Well now there is a "big" problem and this management knows future growth, that could have happened with the new CPA with UA will never happen without a strong industry leading contract with retention $$ to keep current pilots here. It's obvious to US all failure is occurring very single day.

prex8390 05-22-2018 01:06 PM

I would throw the CJO out and apply to PSA

Jetmcquack1985 05-23-2018 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2599889)
I would throw the CJO out and apply to PSA

I did, and they called me yesterday. But the interview it’ll be the same week of starting ground with AW. What I can do is postpone it till August as a back up in case I won’t make it. I passed express jet too and my class is scheduled for the 9th of July. I’ll post pone it too.

prex8390 05-23-2018 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Jetmcquack1985 (Post 2600336)
I did, and they called me yesterday. But the interview it’ll be the same week of starting ground with AW. What I can do is postpone it till August as a back up in case I won’t make it. I passed express jet too and my class is scheduled for the 9th of July. I’ll post pone it too.

I would put expressjet in the same boat as AW. They are a dying airline. Upgrades are over a decade. They just lost half their company to contracts being terminated. Get to PSA, even if t means interviewing when your should be at AW ground school. Stability means more than a class date. Mesa is mailing post cards with class dates on them. They don’t mean anything. You’ll have a job waiting

Swakid8 05-23-2018 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2600564)
I would put expressjet in the same boat as AW. They are a dying airline. Upgrades are over a decade. They just lost half their company to contracts being terminated. Get to PSA, even if t means interviewing when your should be at AW ground school. Stability means more than a class date. Mesa is mailing post cards with class dates on them. They don’t mean anything. You’ll have a job waiting


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