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Old 06-06-2020, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat View Post
unless you have a silver spoon, I wouldn’t spend my own money on the atp/ctp just yet. It would be like paying for a type rating out of your own pocket. Yeah you have the type, but without time in type it won’t really help you.
I wouldn't say I have a Silver Spoon, but I'm not hurting right now. I'm a middle-aged (41) career changer and I've found an ATP/CTP course in driving distance (no hotel needed) from my home for $3k (expensive, but not as much as many places like the $5k quoted above, and not breaking the bank). The way I see it, when the regionals (any of them, not just AW) finally start hiring, They'll probably be looking for people that can get started the fastest and who they don't have to pay extra training for. If I already have the ATP/CTP done, that's going to put me ahead of someone that doesn't have it done.
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Old 06-06-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
The real issue here, if you are looking at any of the Big Three, is their international flying. Domestic flying is coming back. It’ll be 95% of normal by Christmas, barring a major recurrence of coronavirus. .
Oh boy. I hope you're not offering refunds with these bold predictions.
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Old 06-06-2020, 12:38 PM
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The real issue here, if you are looking at any of the Big Three, is their international flying. Domestic flying is coming back. It’ll be 95% of normal by Christmas, barring a major recurrence of coronavirus. .

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Oh boy. I hope you're not offering refunds with these bold predictions.
well, currently TOTAL TSA numbers are seeing about a 22% week over week increase, mostly domestic. Right now it is right at 15% of last year making domestic flying roughly 18-20% of last year. There are roughly 27 weeks between now and the Christmas holidays. Now clearly the 22% week over week increase CAN’T continue because it is held back by the absence of international flying and other limiting factors but domestic flying? Yeah, that can get back to 95% of normal, but I think most of that’s going to go to the single type airlines (and maybe Alaska) because the Big Three are still going to be screwed over by their multi fleet related displacement and training problems.

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Old 06-07-2020, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat View Post
unless you have a silver spoon, I wouldn’t spend my own money on the atp/ctp just yet. It would be like paying for a type rating out of your own pocket. Yeah you have the type, but without time in type it won’t really help you.
I don’t know what the right answer is in these current circumstances but there was a point in time where about half of the new hires at Air Wisconsin had paid for a type rating just to have something to make their resume stand out. They spent probably around $20,000 or so to get a job that paid less than flight instructing. So to spend $5,000 to get a job doesn’t sound ridiculous in comparison. I’m not saying whether or not it’s the right thing to do but I’m just saying that you wouldn’t be the first or last person to spend money to add something to your resume.
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Old 06-11-2020, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Imapylot View Post
I don’t know what the right answer is in these current circumstances but there was a point in time where about half of the new hires at Air Wisconsin had paid for a type rating just to have something to make their resume stand out. They spent probably around $20,000 or so to get a job that paid less than flight instructing. So to spend $5,000 to get a job doesn’t sound ridiculous in comparison. I’m not saying whether or not it’s the right thing to do but I’m just saying that you wouldn’t be the first or last person to spend money to add something to your resume.
The PFT kids and their type were a huge pita and made the industry harder for all of us. Getting an ATP isn't quite the same.
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Old 06-11-2020, 11:25 AM
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If anyone thinks this program is going to stay in existence when the company is about to furlough nearly half their pilots... you might want to rethink.
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Old 06-11-2020, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AZwiz View Post
The PFT kids and their type were a huge pita and made the industry harder for all of us. Getting an ATP isn't quite the same.
Getting an ATP is definitely not the same as PFT but neither is getting a type rating. I don’t see paying for an ATP or a type rating as being really necessary but PFT is certainly a bad idea. Who was the infamous Continental express 1900 outfit that was notorious for that crap?
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Getting an ATP is definitely not the same as PFT but neither is getting a type rating. I don’t see paying for an ATP or a type rating as being really necessary but PFT is certainly a bad idea. Who was the infamous Continental express 1900 outfit that was notorious for that crap?

Gulfstream
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Yep. That’s the one. The first time in my career that I was kicked off a less than full flight was on them. I honestly thought they were joking when they told me it was weight restricted. I was already buckled in my seat ready to go.
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Old 07-16-2020, 10:58 AM
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Well, it was nice while it lasted. If you haven't see the email yet, check your AirWis email, then send in your ID
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