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Av8tor8710 04-26-2019 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by CessnaGril (Post 2809334)
They are losing flying, while other regionals are gaining flying.

Your source?

tonsterboy5 04-26-2019 01:32 PM

I highly doubt flying is going anywhere. There are almost 600 pilots on the seniority list that’s a valuable resource to have today. A merger or buy out is likely but not a loss in flying

DarkSideMoon 04-26-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2809499)
I highly doubt flying is going anywhere. There are almost 600 pilots on the seniority list that’s a valuable resource to have today. A merger or buy out is likely but not a loss in flying

Flying comes and goes every month. We’re down from last summer right now but I’m sure another UAX regional will implode and we’ll pick up the slack again. Already seeing XJT trips dropping into our open time.

pitchtrim 04-27-2019 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by CessnaGril (Post 2809334)
They are losing flying, while other regionals are gaining flying.

Nope. Wrong. Incorrect.

amcnd 04-29-2019 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by tonsterboy5 (Post 2809499)
I highly doubt flying is going anywhere. There are almost 600 pilots on the seniority list that’s a valuable resource to have today. A merger or buy out is likely but not a loss in flying

Noone is going to want to merge/buyout a airline (Air Wisconsin) with 200’s that will time out in the coming years.. they will be around to squeeze every ounce of money they can before the aircraft time out. But not reinvest into anything long term. (Private ownerships and there close to retirement age...)

StrykerB21 04-29-2019 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2811124)
Noone is going to want to merge/buyout a airline (Air Wisconsin) with 200’s that will time out in the coming years.. they will be around to squeeze every ounce of money they can before the aircraft time out. But not reinvest into anything long term. (Private ownerships and there close to retirement age...)

I wouldn't count on the airframes timing out anytime soon either. The required inspection cost is apparently a lot lower than anticipated so they'll be going back into service instead of sent to the boneyard.

tonsterboy5 04-29-2019 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2811124)
Noone is going to want to merge/buyout a airline (Air Wisconsin) with 200’s that will time out in the coming years.. they will be around to squeeze every ounce of money they can before the aircraft time out. But not reinvest into anything long term. (Private ownerships and there close to retirement age...)

And you don’t think those private owners would want to sell the airline before they retire while they still own planes and have pilots? I get your point that the planes are old and no-one would want them but how many planes do most regionals actually own? Very few, most are leased or owned by the major they are supporting. So owning a bunch of old planes and having 600 pilots is worth something. I highly doubt the owners will one day just decide to park all the planes and lay everyone off so they can retire. They are smarter than that, they will cash in someway somehow

CanWeGetTheLeft 04-29-2019 08:11 PM

The regional industry changes more now in six months than it used to in 6 years.

Speculating on the future of Air Wisconsin beyond the end of our current agreement with United is a fool’s errand.

Remember when GoJet was dead because the Delta flying was going away and Expressjet got new 175’s, meaning that there wasn’t scope for the -700 flying GoJet had?

Remember when Expressjet was dead because they were being slowly strangled by Skywest and there was no way they were ever getting new aircraft?

Both of those things were true within the last 6 months.

amcnd 04-30-2019 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by CanWeGetTheLeft (Post 2811256)
The regional industry changes more now in six months than it used to in 6 years.

Speculating on the future of Air Wisconsin beyond the end of our current agreement with United is a fool’s errand.

Remember when GoJet was dead because the Delta flying was going away and Expressjet got new 175’s, meaning that there wasn’t scope for the -700 flying GoJet had?

Remember when Expressjet was dead because they were being slowly strangled by Skywest and there was no way they were ever getting new aircraft?

Both of those things were true within the last 6 months.

GoJet 700’s for Delta, have nothing to do with XJT getting 175’s for united..

What i was pointing out was if i was Air Wisconsin owners. I wouldn’t be spending huge capital on new E175’s when i was ready to retire. Not to mention there late to the scope game... There best hope is 550’s For UA....


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