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Old 06-11-2019, 09:00 AM   #11  
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Here is my take. I have been at AWAC 13 1/2 years. At my age, I doubt Iíll be able to go anywhere. I do get 4 weeks vacation, make good money, have excellent health insurance and a good 401K.
Good 401k? Thanks for the laugh. Maybe for a regional, most the guys here arenít looking to retire at a regional.
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Pay rate is not the end-all. Segment is what we are paid on. I never fly more than 70hrs a month and I never credit less than 100.
Donít give false information without providing proof. Add a picture of your last 6 months of pay sheets covered with pencil marks scribbled all over it because the company wonít pay for modern software.

It is not typical to block less than 70hrs and credit more than 100.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:28 AM   #13  
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Good 401k? Thanks for the laugh. Maybe for a regional, most the guys here arenít looking to retire at a regional.

The average 401k match is almost half of AWAC's. It's a pretty decent plan but of course the major level pays more out as a % and $ level, because salaries are also higher.

I'm trying to remember exact numbers but when I left AWAC at eight years IIRC I had around 200k in retirement between my 401k and IRA. And that was when CA pay was less than FO pay is currently. So you won't retire wealthy but done right as long as you stay employed you'll be a multi-millionaire.

That being said I think I would slit my wrists if I were still there.
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That being said I think I would slit my wrists if I were still there.
This should have been the first and only response to the original poster.
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Good 401k? Thanks for the laugh. Maybe for a regional, most the guys here arenít looking to retire at a regional.
Compared to other regionals and even other places in corporate America? I did pretty well with my 401K during my tenure at AWAC.
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Old 06-15-2019, 05:11 PM   #16  
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That being said I think I would slit my wrists if I were still there.
LOL. Iíll second this comment. No idea how bad AW was until I left AW. What I will also add to this thread is that at AW ďthe next big thing is always right around the corner.Ē

Given a choice in todayís market, if youíre just getting into the 121 world, this would be one of the last places I would go. Sure, they have good insurance and a decent 401k, but look at the big picture. They simply cannot compete in this market. Not to mention the management and labor relations are absolutelty terrible. What is this, year 11+ of contract negotiations?
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Hello,
I just recently got an offer with both airlines, living close to DC both would have a base that i can drive to easily.
Wanted to see what people's opinion would be in this case.
Psa does pay more and mainly has a guaranteed flow to AA, since i don't have a Bachelor's this is very interesting.
Air Wisconsin does have opportunities to credit more hours at quite lower rate and better Healthcare, but Career Path i only after i get a Bachelor's and guarantees only an interview with United, which honestly i can do at PSA since the Bachelor degree can be done thru ALPA.
I have flown in the Airline industry for 11 in Europe so hour wise i am good.

Wonder if people have insight or come up with things that i haven't thought about yet.

Look at it this way, I flew with some of the most professional pilots ever at Air Wisconsin. At PSA, youíll have no problem getting passed the background check. Ask that guy who was charged in that triple murder.
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Donít give false information without providing proof. Add a picture of your last 6 months of pay sheets covered with pencil marks scribbled all over it because the company wonít pay for modern software.

It is not typical to block less than 70hrs and credit more than 100.
If you're on reserve it's easy. Do you actually work in AWAC?
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Look at it this way, I flew with some of the most professional pilots ever at Air Wisconsin. At PSA, youíll have no problem getting passed the background check. Ask that guy who was charged in that triple murder.
Considering the fact that PSA has been growing for several years now and AWAC has not, Iíd imagine they have a tougher time being picky with applicants. That guy is a real head-scratcher though when you look at his history. Hard to imagine him getting hired anywhere to fly anything.
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Your goal shouldn't be on what crew bases the regional have. You never know what bases the airline would abandon.

Also, the "flow", don't rely on it. One economic downturn, you will be flowing for 10 years. There are some guys (without degrees) who have been hired through the United CPP program, however, it's contingent upon completion of their bachelors.

There's a lot of movement here in Air Wisconsin. You can reach captain upon reaching 1000 hrs SIC. Also, they are lacking CPT and Sim instructors, another pad on your resume if you so desire.

If you need to make more money, we have a lot of open time. There's an FO in Columbia that tries to fly whatever he can legally. He will hit 100k for this year w/o the bonuses.
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