Air Wisconsin Bonus Repayment - legitimate?
01-15-2020, 02:54 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by dremaldent
And here's the real kicker that many above have already talked about. Even if it was legal to just keep the bonus (It isn't), it would still be unethical and extremely unprofessional. If we want to be treated like professionals by management, we need to act like professionals and keep up our end of the deal.
Everyone else:
New hires:
"Why hasn't mainline called me yet?"
01-15-2020, 03:01 PM
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When I worked in management for AA, part of my offer included a very generous relocation package, and a nominal signing bonus. The bonus required a 1-year commitment, and the relocation a 2-year commitment. I signed the offer, and acknowledged that if I left before year 1 or 2 I would owe back a prorated portion of the bonus / relocation. This is extremely common across all professions, yet I only hear pilots scheming for ways to get out of repayment.
01-15-2020, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
When I worked in management for AA, part of my offer included a very generous relocation package, and a nominal signing bonus. The bonus required a 1-year commitment, and the relocation a 2-year commitment. I signed the offer, and acknowledged that if I left before year 1 or 2 I would owe back a prorated portion of the bonus / relocation. This is extremely common across all professions, yet I only hear pilots scheming for ways to get out of repayment.
01-15-2020, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
When I worked in management for AA, part of my offer included a very generous relocation package, and a nominal signing bonus. The bonus required a 1-year commitment, and the relocation a 2-year commitment. I signed the offer, and acknowledged that if I left before year 1 or 2 I would owe back a prorated portion of the bonus / relocation. This is extremely common across all professions, yet I only hear pilots scheming for ways to get out of repayment.
Well I am not at an airline yet, will be in November after I retire from the military.....I agree, this is a common practice and pilots do seem to be the ones scheming to keep the bonus.... but, what I read on these forums, basically every one of them, all I hear is how much the airline lies and breaks the contract and so forth. Maybe if management didn’t treat pilots like cattle, the pilots wouldn’t leave so quickly or would be more willing to pay back the bonus. Just a thought. I’m not saying it’s right to not pay it back, but it isn’t right to not abide by business rules and CBAs either - sometimes, what’s good for the goose....
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01-17-2020, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8tor0773
Well I am not at an airline yet, will be in November after I retire from the military.....I agree, this is a common practice and pilots do seem to be the ones scheming to keep the bonus.... but, what I read on these forums, basically every one of them, all I hear is how much the airline lies and breaks the contract and so forth. Maybe if management didn’t treat pilots like cattle, the pilots wouldn’t leave so quickly or would be more willing to pay back the bonus. Just a thought. I’m not saying it’s right to not pay it back, but it isn’t right to not abide by business rules and CBAs either - sometimes, what’s good for the goose....
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01-19-2020, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
It's pretty comical that so many pilots say "Abide by the contract!" about the very bonus that violates almost every CBA in the regionals. What about that contract? Or are we just choosing contracts to enforce now?
01-22-2020, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
The CBAs I'm familiar with do not allow the company to pay bonuses outside the compensation agreed on in the contract.
Not sure if AW has a carveout for that.
Not sure if AW has a carveout for that.
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