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Old 03-09-2020, 11:24 PM
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Not after they made mandatory responses to scheduling ACARS part of the FOM.
Why hasn't the union stopped this?
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Not after they made mandatory responses to scheduling ACARS part of the FOM.
Non-essential communication below 10,000; that's a sterile cockpit violation.
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My understanding is that Republic doesnt do it at all but they're the only one I know of. Open flying should always be covered by a reserve pilot first so junior manning will be worst at airlines that dont have adequate reserves. For us that happens to be Captains right now.
Skywest doesn't do it.

They have "junior manning" but that's a terminology holdover from the past... today it just means "voluntary overtime". You don't have to accept it.

But that's for your days off... they can however do almost any sort of reflow within your original trip footprint, and can be pretty creative about it. A few years ago there was a popular long (30-ish hours) overnight at an outstation where a lot of folks lived. The station was close to a big hub, and the company started reflowing folks to work on the "off" day in the middle of the trip.
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Originally Posted by AZwiz View Post
Non-essential communication below 10,000; that's a sterile cockpit violation.
it specifically says within 15 minutes of block in.
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Old 03-10-2020, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94 View Post
it specifically says within 15 minutes of block in.
Communication takes a sender, a receiver, and a message; this scenario has all 3. Who cares how long you have to contact them, they're communicating and it's willful and intentional violation of sterile cockpit.
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Old 03-10-2020, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AZwiz View Post
Communication takes a sender, a receiver, and a message; this scenario has all 3. Who cares how long you have to contact them, they're communicating and it's willful and intentional violation of sterile cockpit.
No one forces you to open the message below ten, just after you get into the gate. The FOM, the FAA approved FOM, is clear about that.
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Old 03-10-2020, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94 View Post
No one forces you to open the message below ten, just after you get into the gate. The FOM, the FAA approved FOM, is clear about that.
Yes, let me ignore a light that precludes me from getting other pertinent information... It's complete BS.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:19 AM
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Are you guys pay protected if you refuse an FAR 117 extension?
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Old 03-11-2020, 01:00 PM
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Are you guys pay protected if you refuse an FAR 117 extension?
the company would probably require us to call fatigued, in which case you are NOT pay protected.
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Old 03-11-2020, 03:04 PM
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One day the OP is going to get that message on the ACARS and think back to the joyous time in his life when he actually had to ask “what is junior manning”
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