50 Seat Viability
#101
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yeah, I know Scott could get more 70 seaters by ordering a mainline narrow body, but he’s made no mention of that. Lots of talk about retiring fleets, but nothing about adding.
#102
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this is why I wonder why mainline pilots are so excited about the 50 seaters going away? Those 50 seaters feed your hubs and as you said, there are no more 70 seaters, so where is the lift going to come from? Goes directly against his other statement of picking up market share the competitors leave behind.
yeah, I know Scott could get more 70 seaters by ordering a mainline narrow body, but he’s made no mention of that. Lots of talk about retiring fleets, but nothing about adding.
yeah, I know Scott could get more 70 seaters by ordering a mainline narrow body, but he’s made no mention of that. Lots of talk about retiring fleets, but nothing about adding.
#103
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Legacy pilots have slowly given away the store for years and they will celebrate any reduction in outsourced flying. Replacing that lift is what the company and U-ALPA are working on. ALPA is pushing for something like the E190/5 E2 or bringing 76 seat jets in house and negotiating a rate (both would be considered a new NB fleet type and unlock rj’s). We don’t know where all of this is going, but we see it as a step in the right direction.
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Legacy pilots have slowly given away the store for years and they will celebrate any reduction in outsourced flying. Replacing that lift is what the company and U-ALPA are working on. ALPA is pushing for something like the E190/5 E2 or bringing 76 seat jets in house and negotiating a rate (both would be considered a new NB fleet type and unlock rj’s). We don’t know where all of this is going, but we see it as a step in the right direction.
#106
Compare that with what it would cost SWA or F9 or NK to furlough, with a single fleet type and a common type rating. This has the potential to give the LCC/ULCC airlines a real advantage over the legacies - at least in the short term.
#107
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How many “EAS/Prorate” city's does ZW serve?. OO serves 29 for UA. The key is UA may eventually say they don’t have any “50 seaters” but thats not true. EAS/Prorate carry the UA code but are operated by other airlines.. cape air, boutique, SkyWest, or wven foreign codeshares, ect... 50 seat RJ’s will be around for awhile. But not in the mass they are today...
#108
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How many “EAS/Prorate” city's does ZW serve?. OO serves 29 for UA. The key is UA may eventually say they don’t have any “50 seaters” but thats not true. EAS/Prorate carry the UA code but are operated by other airlines.. cape air, boutique, SkyWest, or wven foreign codeshares, ect... 50 seat RJ’s will be around for awhile. But not in the mass they are today...
Less rjs is a good thing .Clogging up the ramp, Airways etc. It will sting for awhile but in the end it’s more mainline jobs for all of us down the road.Unless you’re a regional lifer, if that’s the case things are very bleak at the moment.
#109
A220's coming to United
Prior to this Virus, United clearly indicated they would not pursue the A220 market. My inside source say management has drawn up a new business plan and the A220 fits that new post-virus world perfectly (Hence Kirby's comment). 109-seat markets make sense now, less frequency into the existing smaller markets previously served 4 to 6 times a day. Those who have offers through the Aviate program, buckle your seat belts. Don't let the doomsdayer bring you down, there is a light at the end of this tunnel.
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Prior to this Virus, United clearly indicated they would not pursue the A220 market. My inside source say management has drawn up a new business plan and the A220 fits that new post-virus world perfectly (Hence Kirby's comment). 109-seat markets make sense now, less frequency into the existing smaller markets previously served 4 to 6 times a day. Those who have offers through the Aviate program, buckle your seat belts. Don't let the doomsdayer bring you down, there is a light at the end of this tunnel.
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