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IFLYACRJ 04-07-2020 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 3025489)
Bingo. I’ve been saying this for months. WiFi and BYOD entertainment will immediately placate a good chunk of the CRJ’s naysayers.


It’s a high tech babysitter


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RabidW0mbat 04-07-2020 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by IFLYACRJ (Post 3025842)
It’s a high tech babysitter


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I mean yeah, the CRJ sucks donkey balls, but I bet you give the average American WiFi, and they won’t really care what kind of airplane they’re on. The whole 145 vs 200 discussion only happens between us and seasoned travelers. End of the day no one here knows how this will shake out. Enjoy it while it lasts, this is my second career, so I can appreciate how easy the job is vs sitting at a desk.

IDriveJets 04-07-2020 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 3025852)
I mean yeah, the CRJ sucks donkey balls, but I bet you give the average American WiFi, and they won’t really care what kind of airplane they’re on. The whole 145 vs 200 discussion only happens between us and seasoned travelers. End of the day no one here knows how this will shake out. Enjoy it while it lasts, this is my second career, so I can appreciate how easy the job is vs sitting at a desk.


what ☝️said (second part not the WiFi part)

Beechnut 04-07-2020 07:54 AM

The soon to be CEO of the one company AirWis has a contract with just stated he doesn’t want your product.

You guys are arguing about WiFi.

DontLookDown 04-07-2020 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Beechnut (Post 3026065)
The soon to be CEO of the one company AirWis has a contract with just stated he doesn’t want your product.

You guys are arguing about WiFi.

mic drop

filler

GA2Jets 04-07-2020 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Beechnut (Post 3026065)
The soon to be CEO of the one company AirWis has a contract with just stated he doesn’t want your product.

You guys are arguing about WiFi.

Actually he didn't say that. He said it was his "guess" that "almost all". Bad, to be fair, but he didn't say "I don't want 50 seat aircraft anymore" or anything to that effect.

Itsajob 04-07-2020 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3026086)
Actually he didn't say that. He said it was his "guess" that "almost all". Bad, to be fair, but he didn't say "I don't want 50 seat aircraft anymore" or anything to that effect.

Here is his exact quote:

“my guess is that the 50 seaters will be mostly gone by the end of this. Under almost any of these scenarios 50 seat flying will be a thing of the past”.

The scenarios he talked about prior to that statement were best case and worst case. A person hanging their hope on on the words “guess”, or “almost” is setting themselves up for disappointment. After Scott made the statement Oscar didn’t walk it back. He said, “there are probably some smiles around virtual land right now with that statement.”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

dremaldent 04-07-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3026100)
Here is his exact quote:

“my guess is that the 50 seaters will be mostly gone by the end of this. Under almost any of these scenarios 50 seat flying will be a thing of the past”.

The scenarios he talked about prior to that statement were best case and worst case. A person hanging their hope on on the words “guess”, or “almost” is setting themselves up for disappointment. After Scott made the statement Oscar didn’t walk it back. He said, “there are probably some smiles around virtual land right now with that statement.”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

Okay, but how are they gonna get rid of 50 seaters without scope relief? Even if they do get scope relief they'll still need additional 70 seaters. No way can they operate more profitably without additional aircraft if they get rid of all 50 seaters. We're gonna still have some kind of job at the end of this flying. There's too many retirements for them to continue operating without hiring new pilots.

Itsajob 04-07-2020 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by dremaldent (Post 3026125)
Okay, but how are they gonna get rid of 50 seaters without scope relief? Even if they do get scope relief they'll still need additional 70 seaters. No way can they operate more profitably without additional aircraft if they get rid of all 50 seaters. We're gonna still have some kind of job at the end of this flying. There's too many retirements for them to continue operating without hiring new pilots.

My guess is that they picture reduced frequency with bigger planes. Some small markets could be determined to be no longer viable. I really don’t know what their post-virus plan is, just that it sounds like it will not involve 50 seaters. They could be considering a new NB fleet to unlock additional rj’s, bringing owned 175’s in-house, picking up cheap used 737/320 aircraft and using a Southwest style domestic model, cheap Max7’s from Boeing...... I think that people will get hurt as the change happens. United pilots will most likely be furloughed, regionals airlines operating 50 seaters could easily be let go. Considering the attrition, most will still have some kind of a job, but it may be starting over at the bottom of another regional after a furlough or liquidation. There may be options out there, but they stink.

GA2Jets 04-07-2020 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Itsajob (Post 3026100)
Here is his exact quote:

“my guess is that the 50 seaters will be mostly gone by the end of this. Under almost any of these scenarios 50 seat flying will be a thing of the past”.

The scenarios he talked about prior to that statement were best case and worst case. A person hanging their hope on on the words “guess”, or “almost” is setting themselves up for disappointment. After Scott made the statement Oscar didn’t walk it back. He said, “there are probably some smiles around virtual land right now with that statement.”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA

It's like you aren't even reading what I'm saying. I have said over and over again that no one knows what will happen and that it's a possibility that 50 seat flying will go away. Don't come at me like I'm an idiot.

I understand what he said and what dark reality it poses. You can be as dark as you want, **however**, the words guess and mostly are important because the point is: Anything. Might. Happen.


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