50 Seat Viability
04-07-2020, 10:11 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
It's like you aren't even reading what I'm saying. I have said over and over again that no one knows what will happen and that it's a possibility that 50 seat flying will go away. Don't come at me like I'm an idiot.
I understand what he said and what dark reality it poses. You can be as dark as you want, **however**, the words guess and mostly are important because the point is: Anything. Might. Happen.
I understand what he said and what dark reality it poses. You can be as dark as you want, **however**, the words guess and mostly are important because the point is: Anything. Might. Happen.
04-07-2020, 10:15 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by bradthepilot
Once someone is infected with the doomer mindset, it is difficult for them to see the world any other way. I think you explained it perfectly; this is an example of a reception/comprehension problem, not an articulation/transmission issue.
04-07-2020, 10:31 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
It's like you aren't even reading what I'm saying. I have said over and over again that no one knows what will happen and that it's a possibility that 50 seat flying will go away. Don't come at me like I'm an idiot.
I understand what he said and what dark reality it poses. You can be as dark as you want, **however**, the words guess and mostly are important because the point is: Anything. Might. Happen.
I understand what he said and what dark reality it poses. You can be as dark as you want, **however**, the words guess and mostly are important because the point is: Anything. Might. Happen.
04-07-2020, 10:42 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
hes not a doomer, he’s just a mainline pilot that hopes to see the 50 seaters go away.
04-07-2020, 10:43 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by Escargot
I call B.S. on Kirby.
What company, concerned about solvency, would pay to replace old working aircraft with non-existent new ones?
Who's with me?
What company, concerned about solvency, would pay to replace old working aircraft with non-existent new ones?
Who's with me?
It’s called a C-suite power play and negotiating. Never let a crisis go to waste to get something for nothing that you couldn’t get on your terms before. Kirby wants gobs of big RJs and scope for no cost ... and now he is pitching it as a way to help UAL survive. Trust the UAL MEC to hold the line ... they know the last time they caved it helped make the lost decade an actual decade.
04-07-2020, 10:48 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by Escargot
I call B.S. on Kirby.
What company, concerned about solvency, would pay to replace old working aircraft with non-existent new ones?
Who's with me?
What company, concerned about solvency, would pay to replace old working aircraft with non-existent new ones?
Who's with me?
04-07-2020, 11:38 AM
#49
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I watched the UND presentation. No way did they say recovery by Fall. They must have said a dozen times that nobody knows when the recovery would take place, but that historically the industry has always recovered eventually.
Edit to add: YouTube link of that presentation
Edit to add: YouTube link of that presentation
04-07-2020, 11:49 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by Escargot
I call B.S. on Kirby.
What company, concerned about solvency, would pay to replace old working aircraft with non-existent new ones?
Who's with me?
What company, concerned about solvency, would pay to replace old working aircraft with non-existent new ones?
Who's with me?
Secondly, as our management has said, we still have a strong and extendable contract with United for several years yet. They can’t break the contract without going to court.
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