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dremaldent 04-07-2020 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by RAHkid94 (Post 3026512)
He’s the CEO of the company! His “Guess” carries a hell of a lot more weight than anyone else’s due to the fact that he’s the one making the decision! And then they laughed about the prospect!

I’m not a doomer and I certainly hope I’m wrong, but I’m not going to sit here for 6 months sitting on my hands while we’re flying straight towards a mountain.

I suppose the GPWS could be broken, but right now it’s saying “Caution, Terrain” and you guys are saying “there’s a chance it’s malfunctioning” instead of pulling up.

Okay, and what are you suggesting we do exactly? There are no other airline jobs right now. I'm definitely not leaving AWAC when we still have a chance, especially since there's nowhere else to go anyway.

JohnnyBekkestad 04-07-2020 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by RAHkid94 (Post 3026512)
I suppose the GPWS could be broken, but right now it’s saying “Caution, Terrain” and you guys are saying “there’s a chance it’s malfunctioning” instead of pulling up.

That's what the Russians did when they crashed the SuperJet 100 into the mountain...

idlethrust 04-07-2020 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by dremaldent (Post 3026582)
Okay, and what are you suggesting we do exactly? There are no other airline jobs right now. I'm definitely not leaving AWAC when we still have a chance, especially since there's nowhere else to go anyway.

Downgrades and furloughs are inevitable. Mke will be next. If we are lucky , IF , being invaluable,we will have a very small operation in Ord , maybe 1/4 the size it is now .
I Hope I’m wrong.

itsmytime 04-07-2020 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3026665)
Downgrades and furloughs are inevitable. Mke will be next. If we are lucky , IF , being invaluable,we will have a very small operation in Ord , maybe 1/4 the size it is now .
I Hope I’m wrong.

150 pilot ord base. Got it!

dremaldent 04-07-2020 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3026665)
Downgrades and furloughs are inevitable. Mke will be next. If we are lucky , IF , being invaluable,we will have a very small operation in Ord , maybe 1/4 the size it is now .
I Hope I’m wrong.

Again, there's absolutely nowhere to go right now, so you might as well try to ride it out. 150 pilot ORD base is completely useless, the company would just shut down. Long-term this is not going to be what happens. People will return to the airlines to be flying again, and recovery will happen by late this year or early next year.

RAHkid94 04-07-2020 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by dremaldent (Post 3026790)
Again, there's absolutely nowhere to go right now, so you might as well try to ride it out. 150 pilot ORD base is completely useless, the company would just shut down. Long-term this is not going to be what happens. People will return to the airlines to be flying again, and recovery will happen by late this year or early next year.

There are still a few places out there hiring. Might need to pull some strings and call in some favors but they’re out there.

domino 04-09-2020 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by RAHkid94 (Post 3026795)
There are still a few places out there hiring. Might need to pull some strings and call in some favors but they’re out there.

kirby was on again today on the EWR townhall. Said 757/767 most definitely done and A320 if things go deeper and longer. Again reiterated that in just about every scenario, the 50 seater is largely done.

Escargot 04-09-2020 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 3028349)
kirby was on again today on the EWR townhall. Said 757/767 most definitely done and A320 if things go deeper and longer. Again reiterated that in just about every scenario, the 50 seater is largely done.

I'm ready for Air Wisconsin: Cargo Edition

Itsajob 04-09-2020 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by domino (Post 3028349)
kirby was on again today on the EWR townhall. Said 757/767 most definitely done and A320 if things go deeper and longer. Again reiterated that in just about every scenario, the 50 seater is largely done.

That’s not exactly what he said. He answered a fleet question and he said that if the demand is down 30% at the end of the year and expected to stay, that the 757 is most likely gone. He then said that if the 757 goes, then the 767 probably will too. If the demand worsens or stays depressed for an extended period of time the Airbus fleet would follow. He then said that he really doesn’t want to get rid of the 757 or 767 and that they would have to look at it then. He then said that the 50 seat flying will see a “significant reduction” under any scenario. He didn’t define what he meant by significant, what model of 50 seaters would be targeted first, or when this will begin. People can read into his statement what ever they need to believe at this point. He didn’t say when, or who, but if you work for a company operating 50 seat jets, the consistent message is that you will be taking a pretty big hit.

idlethrust 04-09-2020 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3028368)
I'm ready for Air Wisconsin: Cargo Edition

Air Wisconsin Furlough Edition
fixed it .


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