Making it Count

Pretty simple solution really. If you are in the high risk category keep yourself away from people and make sure that people know that you want to keep your distance. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE whether you believe that or not, it’s the truth. If you aren’t in the high risk category and you do get infected and it turns out badly, I’m sorry but that’s life.

It’s risk assessment. If I go out and die in a car crash or plane crash or have a motorcycle accident or sky diving accident or trip and hit my head or fall off a ladder or have a tree limb fall on me or get hit by lightning or you get the picture yet. I personally know the risk and I’m just fine with going ahead and living life but that’s me. Let me make the choice and if I get sick and die, well that’d suck but so be it. Time for people to take personal responsibility. Everyone knows someone that’s in a high risk category so before you go and visit them make sure they are okay with it. But let them make choice or you follow your convictions of whether you should stay clear or not.

There’s risk with everything. Life is full of it and I’ll respect people’s space but It’s time to move along. If this thing was as bad as Black Death then I would have a different opinion but then it would actually be a higher risk. I am in the camp of its been overblown and I’m not a fearful person which is what the media thrives on.

Rightup

Coronavirus has killed as many people as the seasonal flu with the nation on lockdown, so it is obviously much more dangerous. Regarding the economy, even if it is “opened”, this disease will likely come in waves until a vaccine is developed. Not to mention any of the economic damage done already.

Petaluma

You’re kidding, right?

GA2Jets

I think you seriously underestimate the economic and social damage that would be caused by letting even a disease with a death rate of 1% rampage through the states.

If hospitals are overwhelmed, then the risk of any action goes way up. If there are not enough doctors, the odds go down that you survive, say, a car accident. People on their own will stay home, not spend, but also many more workers and employers will die; some of COVID, but many others from otherwise preventable disease. You have business failures and many more dead.

Idk if they struck the right balance, but I know doing nothing would be so naive. Only the privilege of never facing serious disease would lead you to believe that you can do nothing with no consequences.

WhiskyWhisky

https://simpleflying.com/united-coronavirus-pilot/“Between mid-December and mid-January, an unusually high number of passengers felt unwell on almost every flight and this included two of my copilots,” Cordle said, as reported by View From The Wing.

“One was so ill, he sweated profusely and was unable to sit in the co-pilot’s seat on our approach to Beijing airport. In the taxi, on the way to the hotel, he was violently sick and his skin was ashen gray.

At the time, there were no restrictions in place to prevent the virus from entering the country. Even if flights from China had been halted before, the virus would have probably entered via eventual epicenters in Europe. In fact, the US had started to become a hotspot after Northern Italy became heavily infected.

Making it Count

My wife is a healthcare professional. She’s also pregnant which puts here in a high risk job during a high risk situation. She works at our local hospital. The hospital is not being overrun. In fact it’s the exact opposite. She also believes this has been overblown. Many hospitals, not in major metropolitan areas are actually hurting because of this and I feel the floodgates will open after the ban is removed. It will get worse the longer it takes to re open due to the fact people should be going to the hospital for other issues but they aren’t. Maybe it’s just not a one size fits all. I just think shutting down whole states was or is the answer.

GA2Jets

Yes of course it's not overrun, that's the whole reason we are inside is to ensure it isn't 😂 Success of flattening the curve will look a lot like an overreaction.

Silver02ex

Our flight loads to Vegas was 85%+ until the day before the MGM group shut down. It went down to 20% within a couple of days once all the Casino closed. We have no idea what it will look like once it’s open up. I’m based in Vegas and it’s night and day once the casino closed. Our loads decline mostly because Vegas shut down, and not so much because people are afraid to go or can’t afford to go. This happened to the exact same thing with our flights to MCO once Disney closed.

Making it Count

We could flatten the curve of flu every year as well shut down. I bet motor vehicle accidents are down as well. Maybe we should just stay in this shutdown forever. Let’s think of everything in a one dimensional aspect.

GA2Jets

​​​​​​We understand the flu very well. Not perfectly obviously but we can predict and understand the risks involved. We just don't understand COVID nearly as well because it's new. Therefore we don't know exactly the appropriate response, but it is borne out in the data that it is more deadly right now so we should act like it.

I said earlier in a post that I'm sure it will come back somehow because I agree, closing it all down indefinitely makes no sense. On the other hand, asking the government to let 'er rip again also makes no sense, at least not to me.