chrisreedrules

Sorry guys.

prt135

What happened?

Omnislash

This one isn't that bad and definitely an improvement on the last one. I think the problem is that the company doesn't care what's written in the book and it seems like scheduling makes up their own rules anyway.

Omnislash

It actually makes sense though. Guys like you are always going to think the worst and trash it no matter what it says. I'm glad they took the extra day to go through it and explain it more concisely before all the guys who think we should have gotten UA 777 rates post their negativity and hate to confuse the rest of us. Spoke with the NC and he answered all my questions. Would I have liked higher pay? Absolutely but I am glad they put up the fight that they did based on everything the company was trying to get while using the pandemic and industry reductions to sway the arbitrator.

Imapylot

It is bad. It’s slightly better than the last one in some ways but it’s still bad.

Imapylot

But they didn’t explain it more concisely. The email from the union says the company was entitled to use section 9, the 700 rate is 2.2% higher than 200 October 2021 rate and 900 rate is 2.2% higher than 700 rate. That does not explain anything more concisely than what’s in the actual award. They explained nothing. They stated 2 facts that are in the award. Stating facts is not the same as explaining something.

Omnislash

Your privilege is showing. 🙄
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Imapylot

I’m so sorry for wanting more than what we got. That clearly makes me such an awful person.

Omnislash

There's a major difference between wanting more than what you got and acting as if you automatically deserve more than you got. That's the mentality of a small child.

Imapylot

I made no differentiation between wanting and deserving. In fact, I didn’t even use those words at all. I just said it’s a bad contract. One of the biggest reasons I voted no actually had nothing to do with pay or rigs or work rules or anything that could be considered more than what we got. It was grey areas and holes in language. There are too many examples of weak language that the company can and will take advantage of. I came here from another airline that had rock solid language in their mediocre contract. When the initial negotiations started a long long time ago, I told the union my opinion that they need to shore up a lot of the language. I said that in every survey they gave us. I voted no on every TA and stated that as a reason I voted no. So when I say it’s a bad contract it’s not even about wanting more, it’s about making sure what’s actually in it can’t be taken advantage of by the company. So get your stupid privilege argument out of here.