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idlethrust 07-03-2021 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3258533)
Actually it's not *all* going away. 200 airframes are going away by 2026 and they want to increase the 550s. A lot is going away, but definitely not all.

Single class 50 seat departures will be reduced to only 10% of daily departures by 2023 . Complete fleet overhaul complete by 2026 .
Reread what Kirby said . Daddy has spoken .
Im listening to the guy who is writing the checks .

GA2Jets 07-03-2021 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3258541)
Single class 50 seat departures will be reduced to only 10% of daily departures by 2023 . Complete fleet overhaul complete by 2026 .
Reread what Kirby said . Daddy has spoken .
Im listening to the guy who is writing the checks .

​​​​​​You might recall that you said they are all going away, yet 10% is not all going away. Just saying.

No dispute it's going to change but net 50 seat a/c in general will not change as dramatically. All I'm saying is that your certainty that the future is written already is unwarranted. Skepticism, sure. Certainty of demise? A little much given the evidence.

brockenspectre 07-03-2021 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by RabidW0mbat (Post 3258119)
confirmed per corporate email today.

Let's see the email.

Hedley 07-03-2021 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3258533)
Actually it's not *all* going away. 200 airframes are going away by 2026 and they want to increase the 550s. A lot is going away, but definitely not all.

Going away by 2026, not in 2026. That is also for all of UAX. Contracts expire at different times during that period. From what I recall, your contract expires in early 2023. With the massive NB delivery schedule at United, do you really see that being extended? They want to increase the 550’s some, but it it’s not like they want to fully replace the 200+ aircraft that are getting cut. Hopefully for the benefit of the employees Air Wisconsin is able to find another customer or use for their aircraft, but unless something miraculous happens, there may not be much of a future with United.

StuckOnReserve 07-03-2021 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3258528)
550 ≠ 700/701/705


Not exactly. The only difference between a 550 and a 700 is the MTOW has been administratively reduced on paper. This was done to fit the 550 within the UAL scope clause which limits the 50-seaters by MTOW.

The 550 concept didn’t exist until 2019 and no new 700’s or 550’s have rolled off the assembly line since then. Yet they are flying. That’s because every single 550 is a CRJ 700 that was either owned by Mesa or Skywest which has had an interior modification and a new W&B issued for a restricted weight in the 50 seat config. All 550’ are converted 700’s

You can google this yourself


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brockenspectre 07-03-2021 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 3258601)
Not exactly. The only difference between a 550 and a 700 is the MTOW has been administratively reduced on paper. This was done to fit the 550 within the UAL scope clause which limits the 50-seaters by MTOW.

The 550 concept didn’t exist until 2019 and no new 700’s or 550’s have rolled off the assembly line since then. Yet they are flying. That’s because every single 550 is a CRJ 700 that was either owned by Mesa or Skywest which has had an interior modification and a new W&B issued for a restricted weight in the 50 seat config. All 550’ are converted 700’s

You can google this yourself


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Amazing how many people cannot get this wrapped around their heads.

captive apple 07-03-2021 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve (Post 3258601)
Not exactly. The only difference between a 550 and a 700 is the MTOW has been administratively reduced on paper. I know This was done to fit the 550 within the UAL scope clause which limits the 50-seaters by MTOW. I know

The 550 concept didn’t exist until 2019 and no new 700’s or 550’s have rolled off the assembly line since then. I know Yet they are flying. I know That’s because every single 550 is a CRJ 700 that was either owned by Mesa or Skywest which has had an interior modification and a new W&B issued for a restricted weight in the 50 seat config. All 550’ are converted 700’s I know.

You can google this yourself


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Really? I really don’t know how to say this more clearly. The 550 is not a 700 The discussion here centered around a fictional STC that made 700s into 550s. I simply pointed out the 550 is its own Make meaning it wasn’t made via STC. HULAS doesn’t own the 550 STC because the 550 didn’t come in to existence via STC.

SuperFlier 07-03-2021 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3258818)
Really? I really don’t know how to say this more clearly. The 550 is not a 700 The discussion here centered around a fictional STC that made 700s into 550s. I simply pointed out the 550 is its own Make meaning it wasn’t made via STC. HULAS doesn’t own the 550 STC because the 550 didn’t come in to existence via STC.

So, is this fake? I’m not trying to argue with you, but this is on the FAA STC database site. Kind of hard to say the 550 didn’t need an STC to become a 550.

https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...%20cl-600-2c11

As to who owns the STC, outside of GAL Aerospace licensing the STC to GJ or SW or UA, who knows?

captive apple 07-03-2021 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by SuperFlier (Post 3258824)
So, is this fake? I’m not trying to argue with you, but this is on the FAA STC database site. Kind of hard to say the 550 didn’t need an STC to become a 550.

https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...%20cl-600-2c11

As to who owns the STC, outside of GAL Aerospace licensing the STC to GJ or SW or UA, who knows?

I’ve entered the twilight zone.

SuperFlier 07-03-2021 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 3258826)
I’ve entered the twilight zone.

Dude, I think you started in the twilight zone.


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