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Old 10-18-2021, 07:16 AM
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Did a few two engine ferries in my 727 days. Boeing had a section in the FPPM with all the numbers. Max T/O weight came down to around 135k if I remember correctly. The crew had to have another box checked during training doing a two engine T/O with an engine failure. Captains already got a single engine landing every 6 months. We had to coordinate the departure with ATC. One time climbing out ATC asks which engine is inop “so they know which way to turn us.” I look over at the F/O. “Well tell him.” “It's number 2.”
That’s why I never signed up for training. When you are flying old airplanes for a nonscheduled freight outfit, you don’t have too much faith in the maintenance program on the remaining two engines. If you lost an engine between V1 and clean up, you weren’t going to make it.
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So the Recirc fans were inop? BFD
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Old 10-18-2021, 09:11 AM
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So the Recirc fans were inop? BFD
There’s no such thing as a recirc fan on a CRJ 200.
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Old 10-18-2021, 03:19 PM
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That’s why I never signed up for training. When you are flying old airplanes for a nonscheduled freight outfit, you don’t have too much faith in the maintenance program on the remaining two engines. If you lost an engine between V1 and clean up, you weren’t going to make it.
You work out the numbers based on the performance manual just like you would for any takeoff. Are you saying no 737s or other twins should T/O? In 8500+ hours flying 727s I had one engine failure. Same JT8-ads on SC-9s and never shut one down on that airframe.
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You work out the numbers based on the performance manual just like you would for any takeoff. Are you saying no 737s or other twins should T/O? In 8500+ hours flying 727s I had one engine failure. Same JT8-ads on SC-9s and never shut one down on that airframe.
737’s have better performance with one out than a 727 with 2 out (V1 cut on a 2 engine ferry) is what I was referring to. It didn’t pay any extra, our maintenance was performed with a pencil, and I just left that to others. The various JT8’’s were good engines though. The -7’s were pigs, but the -15’s and especially then-17’s were really nice. I never got to fly a Valsan conversion.
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All you have to do is meet Part 25, which I’ll grant you is not very impressive.
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The funny part about all of this is the airlines have convinced the public that they use HEPA filters.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:49 AM
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The funny part about all of this is the airlines have convinced the public that they use HEPA filters.
Even funnier is that you can sit in a packed college football stadium in calm winds with 80,000 fans and nobody even blinks an eye.
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