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dera 12-25-2021 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3336931)
Nothing to worry about for the ATP/CTP, buy Sheppard air and start cranking through the test bank if you want to be really ahead of the game. It doesn’t really matter if you understand the questions, you just need to know what the answers are. You’re never going to do a spaghetti chart performance calculation in the 121 world.

Do what they tell you to do. Make friends, find some study buddies. Weeknights in ATW are for studying. Get back from class, get a workout/walk or something in, grab a quick bite then dive back in to the books. Don’t go home on the weekends, but don’t burn yourself out either. Take either Saturday or Sunday as a personal day and let the learning simmer. I personally went out after class Friday night, then spend Saturday doing a little RNR then light studying at night. Sunday was a half day of studying for me, early to bed and then back at it.

When they tell you to show up knowing flows/callouts on day one of CPT, they mean it. You should be able to sit in front of a paper tiger and run through every single PM/PF flow and callout with no assistance. Don’t waste any downtime between systems in ATW and CPT.

When you show up to the sim, don’t be shy. Do what you’re supposed to do like you’ve already been doing it on the line. If you have to get a ton of prompting on day 1 and take an hour to get off the gate it’ll hurt the entire rest of your sim time. If you get ahead of schedule now you can buy some extra time to really fine-tune the things that you need to work on.

don’t get frustrated if one instructor tells you to do it one way and another instructor tells you to do it another. It’s likely technique, not a rule, and it’s probably for your benefit. Cooperate and graduate. Have a good attitude and show up well prepared every day and you’ll be fine.

This should be framed and nailed on the wall of the hotel room of any 121 new hire.

nfpilot914 12-28-2021 11:05 AM

Training blueprint?
 
I fly out to Appleton to begin training on Jan. 3. I do have to do ATP-CTP as well. Do they do training in Appleton first then send you to Dallas for the ATP? I haven’t heard back yet from anyone on the AW side other than travel information for the 3rd. Thanks!

crjpilot786 12-28-2021 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by nfpilot914 (Post 3343213)
I fly out to Appleton to begin training on Jan. 3. I do have to do ATP-CTP as well. Do they do training in Appleton first then send you to Dallas for the ATP? I haven’t heard back yet from anyone on the AW side other than travel information for the 3rd. Thanks!

It’s reverse.. You go to Dallas first for the ATP-CTP, then come back to ATW for your ATP Written, after that you start ground school

idlethrust 12-28-2021 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by crjpilot786 (Post 3343341)
It’s reverse.. You go to Dallas first for the ATP-CTP, then come back to ATW for your ATP Written, after that you start ground school

While you’re in Dallas, I’d set up an interview at Envoy .

CFIsoonToBeFO 12-28-2021 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3343496)
While you’re in Dallas, I’d set up an interview at Envoy .

And with Mesa

TiredSoul 12-28-2021 09:01 PM

Before you get to the airspeed and altitude Part there are two rules in aviation:

1. There is no such thing as being over prepared for an interview.
2. There is no such thing as being over prepared for training.

I’ll leave the interview prep to the others as I don’t know.
Training? Get cockpit posters, frame them at home and start working.
Find Systems info online through various sources.
I did two weeks of YouTube airplane systems before showing up for class.

prex8390 12-29-2021 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3343508)
Before you get to the airspeed and altitude Part there are two rules in aviation:

1. There is no such thing as being over prepared for an interview.
2. There is no such thing as being over prepared for training.

I’ll leave the interview prep to the others as I don’t know.
Training? Get cockpit posters, frame them at home and start working.
Find Systems info online through various sources.
I did two weeks of YouTube airplane systems before showing up for class.


This honestly… is awful advice. Learn systems from how AW wants you to learn them. Every company is different and jumping ahead in the airlines training program can lead to bad habits. Learning systems and passing the exams in the time given has been time tested with thousands of pilots. Law of primacy.

PossibleDeviation 12-29-2021 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 3343590)
This honestly… is awful advice. Learn systems from how AW wants you to learn them. Every company is different and jumping ahead in the airlines training program can lead to bad habits. Learning systems and passing the exams in the time given has been time tested with thousands of pilots. Law of primacy.

A system is a system. There's nothing wrong with prepping ahead of time on systems. He never mentioned memorizing call-outs, flows or limitations. That would be awful advice.

DarkSideMoon 12-29-2021 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3343616)
A system is a system. There's nothing wrong with prepping ahead of time on systems. He never mentioned memorizing call-outs, flows or limitations. That would be awful advice.

They’re not though. There are different methods of complying with AD’s, different versions of avionics, different limitations set by the company, etc.

prex8390 12-29-2021 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon (Post 3343656)
They’re not though. There are different methods of complying with AD’s, different versions of avionics, different limitations set by the company, etc.

Yup, weather goes below mins inside the FAF on a 200 at AW, IIRC from my time there, must go around because of the flap AD. Not the case over at 9E on their 200s.


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