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Old 04-21-2011, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by IADBLRJ41 View Post
The rumor on the line is that AWAC fired 40% of one of its recent newhire classes. I agree stay away!
I was one of seven let go last week before I could finish my sim sessions. Chief pilot is resigning, director of training is leaving(or so I've heard), and several classes coming up have been put in pools.

Sims were in PHX and CLT..PHX is going bye-bye....
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:44 PM
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FYI - If you want to have control of your career and finish your training this might not be the place for you. From talking with other pilots who are working there it appears the flight department hired too many people and is not able to train them. Some have been sent home to "return" (but never were fit into the schedule) and others were told they had a job, but have been waiting for five months to get started (after quitting their current flight jobs).
Good company if you are online, but only if you make it to the line. I chose to go to start training for a different airline after hearing this information.
Sat home for 2.5 weeks after finishing 90% of my sims, left voicemails, never heard a peep other than "we"ll work you in when we can". Got a call last week saying they're ending the probation and letting me go with 2 sim sessions still remaining.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:13 PM
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Sat home for 2.5 weeks after finishing 90% of my sims, left voicemails, never heard a peep other than "we"ll work you in when we can". Got a call last week saying they're ending the probation and letting me go with 2 sim sessions still remaining.
Wow, that's brutal dude. On a positive note, if you had the quals to get on there, there are at least a few other places that you'd stand a good chance at now.

I know a guy who washed out of the training program a couple of years back under very shady circumstances. It's possible that he just washed out because he couldn't hack it, but he was a pretty trustworthy guy with no reason to lie to me about it...his stories left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:36 PM
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They have been pulling these shenanigans for years. Having pilots write their resignation letter on a napkin at a bar during training. Telling them "yeah go home and we will work you back in when we can and get you finished up" only to call them a couple days later and tell them to write their resignation.

The training department is good, BUT, a few of them have a superiority complex and work through the good ole boy network. Basically, do your best in training and don't make anyone mad at you or make a name for yourself.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:36 PM
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Please elaborate.

Rather than furlough or put in a pool of some sorts I believe they just washed em out to make it easier.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:37 PM
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I *really* hope this doesn't result in a PRIA training failure...that'd be low even by ATW standards.
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Old 04-21-2011, 05:12 PM
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I *really* hope this doesn't result in a PRIA training failure...that'd be low even by ATW standards.

Was the training started (ground school doesn't count) ?

Was the training completed.

There's your PRIA.

Unlike Timmay Martins at Eagle, and these examples, SkyWest (in the past) didn't bother with offering the resignation. Just canned.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:58 PM
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I think AWAC was expecting a lot of attrition and since there has only been light to moderate attrition they have slammed on the brakes with the upgrades and new-hire training. I wouldn't really read too much more into it than that.

Attrition among senior crew members has been light, at best. The majors are not hiring (yet) and there have been a couple who left for FedEx and/or Atlas and JetBlue, but really not much else.

I still think there will be a lot of attrition, but it hasn't happened yet. The real majors are very nervous about fuel prices, and rightfully so. The training stoppage has as much to do with that as anything else IMHO.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:04 PM
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I was pretty damn disappointed to say the least.....Had a great time in ATW with my indoc class, systems was fun and the sims were a blast. Had some good chats with a few from the pilot group....great pilots and instructors.

Guess it wasn't meant to be for me.....onward and upward.
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:20 AM
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I am sorry that happened to you. What is so wrong about this is that you came from another job somewhere else and most likely that opportunity has been filled. I hope you can get on at a better company soon!
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