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1200hrs of High performance Military
Can anyone expand upon this statement in the AS profile?
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Originally Posted by V22Plopter
(Post 2514436)
Can anyone expand upon this statement in the AS profile?
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Cant speak for Alaska, but usually this means Fighters, F15,F16,F18 etc..This time is usually a lower number because lighter pilots don't fly all that much. It might take a guy 8-10 years to get 1,000 hours in such equipment.
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I can pull 4.5 Gs and have 12000 Hp in the osprey isn’t that high performance. But yeah I may just email the Alaska desk. Do they own the APC profile? Or can others wiki style edit pages...
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Originally Posted by V22Plopter
(Post 2514517)
I can pull 4.5 Gs and have 12000 Hp in the osprey isn’t that high performance. But yeah I may just email the Alaska desk. Do they own the APC profile? Or can others wiki style edit pages...
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Originally Posted by V22Plopter
(Post 2514517)
I can pull 4.5 Gs and have 12000 Hp in the osprey isn’t that high performance. But yeah I may just email the Alaska desk. Do they own the APC profile? Or can others wiki style edit pages...
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2514689)
Dual crewed is one of the differences.
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Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123
(Post 2514878)
No it's not. Know lots of F-18 and F-15 guys with multi crew time.
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Originally Posted by underpaidpic
(Post 2514482)
Cant speak for Alaska, but usually this means Fighters, F15,F16,F18 etc..This time is usually a lower number because lighter pilots don't fly all that much. It might take a guy 8-10 years to get 1,000 hours in such equipment.
MIL flight time is from take off to landing. I.e. MIL guys are missing what civilians would get on a Hobbs meter. So, you can typically add .2 or .3 per flight. V-22 guys should be able to call it high performance MIL. |
Originally Posted by Ispeakjive
(Post 2515220)
V-22 guys should be able to call it high performance MIL.
Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123
(Post 2514878)
No it's not. Know lots of F-18 and F-15 guys with multi crew time.
Not trying to be insulting here, fellas, but the FAA doesn't even see the V-22 as a fixed-wing aircraft, much less a "high performance" one. |
In this context high-performance means single pilot jets (F, A, T, U). Not sure about B-1's. I'm not going to weigh in on nuances or merits of different platforms.
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
(Post 2515246)
Not trying to be insulting here, fellas, but the FAA doesn't even see the V-22 as a fixed-wing aircraft, much less a "high performance" one.
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
(Post 2515246)
Well, it isn't.
There's only one pilot on board an F-15E and F-18D/F. Osprey? Not trying to be insulting here, fellas, but the FAA doesn't even see the V-22 as a fixed-wing aircraft, much less a "high performance" one. |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 2515381)
That's like the F-14 jocks going into the Miramar FSDO and arguing that their ticket shouldn't say "Centerline Thrust."
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive
(Post 2515401)
F-14's are not center line thrust. Remember Maverick's "flat spin out to sea"? :D
P.S. I still can't figure out how to do a flat spin "out to sea." There's some time/space continuum aerodynamics for you. |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 2515553)
P.S. I still can't figure out how to do a flat spin "out to sea." There's some time/space continuum aerodynamics for you. :) |
Originally Posted by at6d
(Post 2516043)
There must be something to that with those -14’s. I saw a bunch of that in the documentary “The Final Countdown.”
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V-22 is a multi pilot A/C.
If you guys are curious v-22 is getting a lot of FAA love as the GP is getting smarter on our operation. Delta allows 90% towards FW Turbine. https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FAA-2017-1106-0122 Another mil friendly regulation is a up to 500hr credit to upgrade to CA in 121 world. |
Originally Posted by V22Plopter
(Post 2521446)
V-22 is a multi pilot A/C.
If you guys are curious v-22 is getting a lot of FAA love as the GP is getting smarter on our operation. Delta allows 90% towards FW Turbine. https://www.regulations.gov/document...2017-1106-0122 Another mil friendly regulation is a up to 500hr credit to upgrade to CA in 121 world. |
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
(Post 2529724)
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
(Post 2529724)
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
(Post 2529724)
I have absolutely ZERO doubt that a 135 guy or a KC-10 guy or a C-17 guy or a 130 guy or a COD guy or a B-52 guy or even a C-12 guy would be, at least initially, ten times better suited to this job than a single seat “high performance" guy. Absolutely NONE. No one cares about “high performance” time. The only reason it matters is because of the multiplier. And to their egos, apparently.....
The people who hire pilots at airlines do not agree with you. |
Originally Posted by Klsytakesit
(Post 2529746)
I will take you up on that....Least favorite pilots to fly with are C-17 pilots...Fighter guys are way better to spend a 4 day trip with. And the fighter guys catch on to the two or three things required to fly in a crew...
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Nucflash doesn't seem to realize that TACAIR guys have to adhere to all the safety regs as everyone else while undergoing physiological and psychological stresses (i.e. combat, carrier ops) that the others don't.
They may not have as much total flight time, but one could argue that their time is more decision making packed than droning in cruise across 10 time zones. Besides, TACAIR guys are generally more fun to hang out with. |
Fighter pilots are better than heavy pilots, military pilots are better than civilian pilots, Airbus is better than Boeing, my #### is bigger than your ####. Blah blah blah. Who cares? A former CP once told me, anyone can take a nice guy/gal who is a mediocre pilot and make them a better pilot. It's impossible to take an ace pilot who is an ###hole and make him a better person! I've flown with great guys and gals who are former C-17, F-15, C-172 and I've flown with ones who are #####'s. It's about the person, not the propulsion. Rant over!
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Originally Posted by ArcticDog
(Post 2530017)
Fighter pilots are better than heavy pilots, military pilots are better than civilian pilots, Airbus is better than Boeing, my #### is bigger than your ####. Blah blah blah. Who cares? A former CP once told me, anyone can take a nice guy/gal who is a mediocre pilot and make them a better pilot. It's impossible to take an ace pilot who is an ###hole and make him a better person! I've flown with great guys and gals who are former C-17, F-15, C-172 and I've flown with ones who are #####'s. It's about the person, not the propulsion. Rant over!
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Originally Posted by ArcticDog
(Post 2530017)
Fighter pilots are better than heavy pilots, military pilots are better than civilian pilots, Airbus is better than Boeing, my #### is bigger than your ####. Blah blah blah. Who cares? A former CP once told me, anyone can take a nice guy/gal who is a mediocre pilot and make them a better pilot. It's impossible to take an ace pilot who is an ###hole and make him a better person! I've flown with great guys and gals who are former C-17, F-15, C-172 and I've flown with ones who are #####'s. It's about the person, not the propulsion. Rant over!
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