PolishFlyerDude

Do you guys have PBS there right now? I heard you picked it up as a result of the arbitrator's ruling last fall.

echelon

airb320

Negative, The AS Pilots are stuck in the 60’s and 70’s and loving it, just like the plane they are holding onto😂

IDIOTPILOT

Virgin side has Flightline until JCTE changeover. JCTE is Alaska side’s scheduling and tracking system, including line bidding. Right now JCTE changeover is estimated in fourth quarter 2018.

There is a MOU that was agreed to pre arbitration. It covers some Scheduling items to be discussed to include PBS. The gist is the Scheduling committees and company will explore and talk about a potential PBS vendor and work rules. Once and if they find something agreeable, it’ll go to membership ratification.

Arbitration mentioned nothing about PBS and both work groups will be under line bidding this year or early next.

2loud

To the OP, no PBS here at Alaskan Airways.
Hey airb, you are now Alaskan even though you are that red headed stepchild whom Puzzle Palace was conned into adopting. We are now one bigger dysfunctional wannabe-family, y’all.

Jetlife

The red headed step children now patented by people far too old to parent correctly. We are all looking forward to doing the Charleston when line bidding comes. Perhaps we will hit the trail in a covered wagon to tell everyone the good news.

ZapBrannigan

So I take it the Virgin folks like PBS better than line bidding? What are the pros and cons?


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Jetlife

Pros to line bidding? A carrier pigeon delivers your schedule once a month. If the weather is bad they send it via Morse code.

IDIOTPILOT

It’s got less to do with PBS itself but more of the work rules that are used. I’ve seen the same PBS program at other places and it’s night and day what the rules do.

We have a window to build our schedules, usually 70 hours minimum. Some months like July, December, they can flex to 75. If you can build to 71 hours and don’t want to work more, that’s it. This likely results in 16-19 days off.

Some months you can be unstacked. A little complex scenario but say Christmas has too many trips, they can assign trips not in your preference then build the rest of your schedule.

I’ve seen the same PBS program with 90 hour minimums or the need to push a certain average. This results in horrible schedules on average. So it’s got less to do with PBS itself and more of how we get so much more flexibility. Line bidding by its nature is highly unlikely to result in 70 hour lines with 20 days off for those that want it.

IamAlaska

I would consider PBS only if we got something like a 5hr min calendar day guarantee. That includes reserves as well. If a reserve gets called out for an ANC allnighter that would equate to 10hrs of credit towards guarantee. If the company wants to park a pilot in OAK for 30hrs, that would equate to an extra 5hrs of pay. Right now vacation trading is our most valuable tool for blowing unwanted pairings off of our schedule. With PBS that goes away...so we better get something (min cal day guar) for it.